Soreness

**Kevinjg** · 01-09-2009, 04:12 PM

Hey guys i'm half just over half way through my cycle and my nipples are gettign rather sore, plus a bit hard . Never suffered this in any of my other cycles.

Cycle
Week 1-6 Danabol 50mg Day
Week 1-18Test E 500mg Week, Might extend depending the length of time i stay on HGH!
Week 1-13 Tren E 600mg Week
Week 8-? 4iu HGH day will up the dose slowly!
Week 10-16 Winstrol 50mg Day--- May change the weeks as i've started HGH.

PCT
Nolvadex , Clomid, HGC & Provirion

What do u guys suggest me to use to try and reduce soreness and hardness of the nipples. There is no fluid coming out of the nipples.

Thanks

**seriousmass** · 01-09-2009, 04:22 PM

mann.. it's early signs of gyno.

just take some nolvadex ... 20mg per day... maybe up the dosage to 50mg per day, until the soreness is gone.

**Kevinjg** · 01-09-2009, 04:38 PM

Yeah thats what I thought, but i said to myself let me get passed the Danabol stages and see if they stop hurting?? They have gone slighly better, but there looking abit puffy.

I'll see how I feel Inthe morning if no better i'll take Nolvadex 2moz for 7 days! not sure weather to use 40mg day x 7 or 20mg x 7????

**Kevinjg** · 01-09-2009, 04:40 PM

I was also possibly thinking of getting a blood works done again?
What should i be asking for?

Ta

**seriousmass** · 01-09-2009, 04:46 PM

Start off with 20mg per day of the Nolva... if the gyno is still there then bump it up to 50mg for the last couple of days, and it should be gone quickly.

regarding your second question... go to the doctor, and say you want your blood-work done. lol.. not complicated.

you should have got your blood work done before / during / post cycle

**ACpower** · 01-09-2009, 05:48 PM

thats a hefty cycle I would def have some letro on hand but i agree start at 20mg on the nolva then bump it up and if that dont work throw that letro in

**Kevinjg** · 01-10-2009, 07:48 AM

Will Letro stop my gains???

This monring it's not as bad as the day B4, swelling has soreness has gone down, i'll give it a few more day see how my body reacts, then go from there.

**Sherman01** · 01-10-2009, 08:12 AM

If you start producing milk from your nipples then its from the Tren (prolactin). Either Letro, Bromo, or Cabaser would be the route then.

IMHO I would at least start on a low dose of letro right now. A low dose should not affect your gains much. You are starting to get gyno and that is something you don't want to deal with.

Also, I am pretty sure the Nolva can make Tren gyno worse. I might be remembering wrong though.

**Kevinjg** · 01-10-2009, 03:08 PM

Can someone Clarify for me that if it's Tren Gyno and I add Nolva will it make it worse?

**Sherman01** · 01-10-2009, 03:38 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ight=prolactin

***RAGE*** · 01-10-2009, 03:41 PM

No nolva should help it

**Kevinjg** · 01-10-2009, 04:54 PM

There doesn't seem to be any liquid coming out of my nipples.

**Sherman01** · 01-10-2009, 05:24 PM

Then give the nolva a go. IMHO you would be best off with a low dose of letro though.

Next time you run Tren or any 19 nor though, IMHO run adex and caber/bromo with it. That way you avoid the whole problem.

**binder** · 01-10-2009, 08:44 PM

Don't jump to conclusions just yet. have you changed anything else about your diet, training, sexual activity? Things like that can affect your nipples.

As my workouts change i've had sore nipples and "THO" off and on, well before i started using any steroids .

If they aren't getting puffy and you do not feel any lumps forming anywhere in the breast tissue then it's more than likely not the start of gynocomastia. Sore nipples can happen with fluctuating hormones but that doesn't mean it's gynocomastia. A severe headache doesn't necessarily mean you have a hemorrhagic stroke just because they both are similar in symptoms. The symptoms have to all add up to be a certain problem and no growth of breast tissue=no gynocomastia (which is what the word means, not sore nipples)

**Kevinjg** · 01-11-2009, 10:32 AM

Well I haven't changed nothign at all my left nipple i can't feel any lump in it now! just a little had. The right nipple here is a little lump top right but compared to yesterday it's gone down lots! so hopefully they'll reduce even more 2moz!

The only thing that have changed really is that i stopped taking Danabol about just under 2 weeks ago!

**binder** · 01-11-2009, 08:27 PM

did you take anything for it?

are you sure it was an actual lump or just a hard nipple? like i said, i've had that off and on before i even touched steroids . When i work out my nipples get hard like i'm in an ice bath.

**Kevinjg** · 01-12-2009, 07:29 AM

Nope, the only thing w i said has chaged is that is stopped taking Danabol.

I'm 150% sure it was a lump! It wasn't just had nipples I could feel around the lump it was pretty solid. There still a little sore and puffy but it's gone down lots. Thank God!