Sust 250 cycle

**Jake1220** · 01-10-2009, 02:43 PM

Hey guys.

Im new to the site and this is my first cycle. Im on 500mg of sust 250/week. Im 24, 5'10, 172 lbs.

Im hoping to maintain 12 or so pounds, but 15 would be ideal. I just did my 4th shot about 20 mins ago. so nothing as far as gains, aggression up, libido up a bit, no gyno, but quite a bit of testicular atrophy. and im just pretty much just learning off of a friend that has done quite a few cycles however if i hit my goal i will not do another cycle.

I guess im just concerned about the injection itself. is it supposed to hurt so much for so long? i can still feel the area where i put my first injection (im putting them all in the gluts) although im trying to scatter them as much as i can in the one quadrant. Im a little worried because while i aspirated i THINK i saw pus, which from my heavy anatomy training i know is indicitive of infection, but i feel fine and ive kept everything as sterile as possible. anybody with similar experiences? Oh and i plan on using HCG for post cycle therapy . thnx

**redz** · 01-10-2009, 02:47 PM

How often are you injecting?
-HCG is not a pct
-how can you "think" you saw puss either you did or didnt.

**Jake1220** · 01-10-2009, 02:50 PM

-twice a week (once every 3 days)
-ive read differently and been told from several places it is, what do you suggest?
-because there wasnt alot of it, just in the tip of through a colored piece of plastic

**Matt** · 01-10-2009, 02:52 PM

How old are?

**redz** · 01-10-2009, 02:54 PM

Well wherever and whoever you are getting your info from isnt very smart. HCG can actually cause gyno and will not work as pct.

**Jake1220** · 01-10-2009, 02:54 PM

in my initial post i stated im 24

**Jake1220** · 01-10-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Well wherever and whoever is giving you info isnt very smart. HCG can actually cause gyno and will not work as pct.

ok... so what do you suggest?

**redz** · 01-10-2009, 02:55 PM

A combination of a serm and ai.

**Jake1220** · 01-10-2009, 02:56 PM

and that would help me maintain gains and prevent emotional issues?

**lord henry** · 01-10-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by redz

A combination of a serm and ai.

man your traps look oddly big for te rest of your body ?????????????????

loooks wied.

**redz** · 01-10-2009, 03:03 PM

LOL I used to be bigger I was cutting in my last cycle I will even out more when I bulk next time around.

**lord henry** · 01-10-2009, 03:07 PM

yer wasent haveing a go man just i seen i was like hmmmmmmmmm ,trap boy unlike the common -bicep boy we see in the clubs with tight t-shirts on ,lol.

**redz** · 01-10-2009, 03:08 PM

I was as high as 267lbs this year in that pic I`m 223lbs.

**redz** · 01-10-2009, 03:09 PM

Mind you it wasnt a good 267, I was bigger all around diet sucked but you live you learn!

**lord henry** · 01-10-2009, 03:12 PM

wow 267 thats well big imo-you dont look no were near that big in te pics -not over 200 -you must be tall?

sorry thread hijack..............

**redz** · 01-10-2009, 03:16 PM

6'2 or so

**Jake1220** · 01-10-2009, 04:31 PM

well this was informative, go jerk each other off somewhere else

**seriousmass** · 01-10-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jake1220

Hey guys.

Im new to the site and this is my first cycle. Im on 500mg of sust 250/week. Im 24, 5'10, 172 lbs.

Im hoping to maintain 12 or so pounds, but 15 would be ideal. I just did my 4th shot about 20 mins ago. so nothing as far as gains, aggression up, libido up a bit, no gyno, but quite a bit of testicular atrophy. and im just pretty much just learning off of a friend that has done quite a few cycles however if i hit my goal i will not do another cycle.

I guess im just concerned about the injection itself. is it supposed to hurt so much for so long? i can still feel the area where i put my first injection (im putting them all in the gluts) although im trying to scatter them as much as i can in the one quadrant. Im a little worried because while i aspirated i THINK i saw pus, which from my heavy anatomy training i know is indicitive of infection, but i feel fine and ive kept everything as sterile as possible. anybody with similar experiences? Oh and i plan on using HCG for post cycle therapy. thnx

No one really answered your questions, so here:

1.) Sust is often VERY painful to inject. Especially if it is your first cycle. (However, everyone is different, some people don't feel injection pain from it whatsoever) - it all depends on how your body reacts to the 4-esters at once. So YES it is normal to be sore for 3 - 4 days after. Sometimes people have to stop working out for a couple of days due to the pain. Nevertheless, your body will probably get used to it after a while.

2.) Your PCT should just be Clomid & Nolvadex ...

run them like this..

Clomid: (100 / 50 / 50 / 50) Nolvadex (40 / 40 / 20 / 20)

Start them 3 weeks after your last injection of the Sust250.

You can take the HCG after your injection as well, to help with the testicular atrophy. But it is not part of the PCT.

**Jake1220** · 01-10-2009, 10:20 PM

awesome thanks.

**jbm** · 01-11-2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by seriousmass

No one really answered your questions, so here:

1.) Sust is often VERY painful to inject. Especially if it is your first cycle. (However, everyone is different, some people don't feel injection pain from it whatsoever) - it all depends on how your body reacts to the 4-esters at once. So YES it is normal to be sore for 3 - 4 days after. Sometimes people have to stop working out for a couple of days due to the pain. Nevertheless, your body will probably get used to it after a while.

2.) Your PCT should just be Clomid & Nolvadex ...

run them like this..

Clomid: (100 / 50 / 50 / 50) Nolvadex (40 / 40 / 20 / 20)

Start them 3 weeks after your last injection of the Sust250.

You can take the HCG after your injection as well, to help with the testicular atrophy. But it is not part of the PCT.

how many iu of HCG ?