first Tren cycle

**rockinred** · 01-12-2009, 06:16 PM

What's up fellas!!!!...I am running tren for the first time and wanted some feedback. Nothing fancy, but just wanted to run a double check with those who have some experience with it. I have PCT set up, etc... know the ropes half lifes as i give advice to noobs on here from time-time. anyhow, let me know what ya think?

wks 1-12 Test P (700mgs)
wks 1-8 Tren A (525mgs)
run a post.

will be doing the shots ed.

pretty much only question is the test dosage. Have heard a lot of bros on here say to peel back on the test dosage when stacking with Tren? I usually run 600-800mgs on the longer esters (E,C) of Test. Never ran prop and never tren. What do you think? any word?

**jamyjamjr** · 01-12-2009, 06:19 PM

your gonna get big, ur gonna experiance sides, and your gonna use the search button to find a whole messa info on this subject matter..... i say so cuz iv asked the same question

**rockinred** · 01-12-2009, 06:20 PM

^^^lol..

looks like a bad time to post up a tren Q... seems like every other m#$#$fVcker in here is asking about it.....

**Sherman01** · 01-12-2009, 06:35 PM

please post cycle history and stats. Thats too high a dose of Tren if you have never run it. And remember Prop has more actual test in it than longer esters. Why not run:

1-12 test prop 500/wk
1-10 tren Ace 350/wk

**jimmyinkedup** · 01-12-2009, 06:43 PM

imo 500 test (i know dosing a pain with 100mg/ml prop..id just get close and be consistent with daily dosages) and 525 tren . With those test dosages im assuming u have a few cycles under your belt.

everybody is different tho ..u know how u respond to test ..but imo the tren will be the workhorse in this cycle....just remember the higher the test ..the higher the estrogen , along with a 19 nor like tren more estro + progesterone from 19 nor could = sides. Use an ai or attck the progestin issue with caber if u go with hiugher doses of test.... just something to bear in mind.

**rockinred** · 01-12-2009, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Sherman01

please post cycle history and stats. Thats too high a dose of Tren if you have never run it. And remember Prop has more actual test in it than longer esters. Why not run:

1-12 test prop 500/wk
1-10 tren Ace 350/wk

come on bro, I post advice on cycles all the time and have posted pics on here with my stats quite a few times... i understand you prob never seen them.... but anyhow, my main Q was to address the concern with lowering my test dosage with the tren dosage... 500mgs is not ideal for me with test, as on last cycle i ran 800mgs... so tren 525mgs seems too high? why?

**rockinred** · 01-12-2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

imo 500 test (i know dosing a pain with 100mg/ml prop..id just get close and be consistent with daily dosages) and 525 tren . With those test dosages im assuming u have a few cycles under your belt.

everybody is different tho ..u know how u respond to test ..but imo the tren will be the workhorse in this cycle....just remember the higher the test ..the higher the estrogen , along with a 19 nor like tren more estro + progesterone from 19 nor could = sides. Use an ai or attck the progestin issue with caber if u go with hiugher doses of test.... just something to bear in mind.

I have a ton of ldex on hand, although I hate to run it with cycles because I get better gains off it.... as stated 500mgs of test just isn't what I would run, but I heard to watch test dosage when running tren....

Last cycle i ran a 16wk cycle of 800mgs test e, 600mgs eq, dbol kicker. 500mgs of test seems kind of weak imo, unless I am missing something here...

**jimmyinkedup** · 01-12-2009, 07:22 PM

differing schools of thought on this...imo the tren will give u the majority of your gains..i honestly dont know if a 200 mg diff/week in test will do much for you gains wise (in this case). If u like the estrogen for gains purposes attack the poss prob from the 19 nor side with caber....unlike most cycles test in this one plays the supporting role... JMO ..either way lets us know ...(sure u will) btw i didnt recognize it was u either! ..new AV ? I must be a visually based individual ...

**Sherman01** · 01-12-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by rockinred

come on bro, I post advice on cycles all the time and have posted pics on here with my stats quite a few times... i understand you prob never seen them.... but anyhow, my main Q was to address the concern with lowering my test dosage with the tren dosage... 500mgs is not ideal for me with test, as on last cycle i ran 800mgs... so tren 525mgs seems too high? why?

When I asked for cycle history I guess I really meant is have you run Deca ? Then at least you would know how you do on a 19 nor. If so then I would not worry so much about the proges sides anyway. The reason I recommended Tren at 350 (its what I am running right now with Test P and Mast) its so much stronger than other steroids . You really do not need to do a high dose to start off with for good results. Its the most common theme I see when people post their experience with tren I think.

Anyway, if you have run other 19's then tren at 500 would not worry me, I just think you could see as good results with less.

Anyway bro, good luck and keep us updated.

**hankdiesel** · 01-12-2009, 07:49 PM

When I run tren I like to keep my test dose low. I do this for a couple reasons. One is everyone says the side effects are worse when the test dose is higher. Second, I like to see all the benefits of the tren. That is where I like to see the gains. Ramping up the test is pointless to me. Last run I did 250mg prop and 500mg of tren a week and I looked like a piece of stone. I save the higher test doses for bulking cycles.

**rockinred** · 01-12-2009, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Sherman01

When I asked for cycle history I guess I really meant is have you run Deca ? Then at least you would know how you do on a 19 nor. If so then I would not worry so much about the proges sides anyway. The reason I recommended Tren at 350 (its what I am running right now with Test P and Mast) its so much stronger than other steroids . You really do not need to do a high dose to start off with for good results. Its the most common theme I see when people post their experience with tren I think.

Anyway, if you have run other 19's then tren at 500 would not worry me, I just think you could see as good results with less.

Anyway bro, good luck and keep us updated.

I got ya brother... thanks for the input.

**rockinred** · 01-12-2009, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

When I run tren I like to keep my test dose low. I do this for a couple reasons. One is everyone says the side effects are worse when the test dose is higher. Second, I like to see all the benefits of the tren. That is where I like to see the gains. Ramping up the test is pointless to me. Last run I did 250mg prop and 500mg of tren a week and I looked like a piece of stone. I save the higher test doses for bulking cycles.

I have heard about the sides with the higher dose of test and that is the main Q with this thread, mainly to find out if it is folklore or for the most part real.

How was your libido with the inbalance of 250mg and 500mgs of tren? did you experience any issues there?

**hankdiesel** · 01-12-2009, 08:32 PM

Libido was great. 250mg/week is way above hrt so that is all I need to feel "right". I'm not sure if it's folklore about the test dose or not because I never tried it.

**inky-e** · 01-13-2009, 05:31 AM

The cycle you proposed consisting of 700 mg's prop and 525 mg'd tren a is fine in my book.....and YES...I DO have a book!

**Big** · 01-13-2009, 07:14 AM

Tren is a great compound, and I've known a lot of people who have seen great gains off of a much lower dosage. I usually recommend the first run with tren to be 350mg/week, but at least you're using a short ester, so if the sides are too much you can just drop it down a bit.