Epistine causing possibly causing Gyno.

**kojak_x** · 01-12-2009, 10:48 PM

I did a 4 week cycle of epistine(havoc) 5 months ago, and have started having sensitive nipples 5 months after the cycle. The nipples have been like this for about a month and half. Pct was nothing more then a over the counter Novedex XT, and iForce Reversitol. Can't say that was too smart.

But was woundering why this is happening so late after. Everything I have read should point out to little sides for epistine and some even say its good to get rid of gyno (if that is what I have)

Im a little lost as to do right now, should I start on some nolva. (Tamoxifen )
should go see the doc, or am I being paranoid.

The nipples just alittle bit sensitive, I only even notice when I had a box I was carrying scarped against them hard.

Any help would be much appreciated.

**peachfuzz** · 01-12-2009, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by kojak_x

I did a 4 week cycle of epistine(havoc) 5 months ago, and have started having sensitive nipples 5 months after the cycle. The nipples have been like this for about a month and half. Pct was nothing more then a over the counter Novedex XT, and iForce Reversitol. Can't say that was too smart.

But was woundering why this is happening so late after. Everything I have read should point out to little sides for epistine and some even say its good to get rid of gyno (if that is what I have)

Im a little lost as to do right now, should I start on some nolva. (Tamoxifen )
should go see the doc, or am I being paranoid.

The nipples just alittle bit sensitive, I only even notice when I had a box I was carrying scarped against them hard.

Any help would be much appreciated.

there is most of your problem...post cycle MUST include a SERM. especially with something like epistane. the reason epistane can help get rid of gyno is it is a steroidal AI that does a very effective job at blocking estrogen. suppress estrogen for four weeks and then dont post cycle properly and expect an estrogen rebound.

**kojak_x** · 01-13-2009, 06:44 AM

Thanks for the info. Now Nolva (Tamoxifen Citrate) 20mg is a SERM correct? Should I start some now to get back to normal from this estrogen rebound.

I keep reading people using Letrozole (Femara) 2.5mg instead. Would it be better?

Thanks.

**Petrolheadz** · 01-13-2009, 12:01 PM

5 months after... Are you sure you didn't use anything else?

**kojak_x** · 01-13-2009, 06:21 PM

yes nothing else.

**Darksyde** · 01-13-2009, 06:50 PM

i have read some reports of epi causing gyno, due to the dosage run. i believe they were saying at low dosages epi can help reduce existing gyno, but the dosages usually given for a muscle building cycle of the compound are higher than that. this is all heresay at the moment though, let me see if i can find the links to that info.

i would definately try a serm now, but im not sure which one would be best, probably nolva or maybe even arimadex or letro. read up on serms to see which one seems best for your situation, hopefully some pct experts can chime in to help. good luck!

**Ashop** · 01-13-2009, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by kojak_x

I did a 4 week cycle of epistine(havoc) 5 months ago, and have started having sensitive nipples 5 months after the cycle. The nipples have been like this for about a month and half. Pct was nothing more then a over the counter Novedex XT, and iForce Reversitol. Can't say that was too smart.

But was woundering why this is happening so late after. Everything I have read should point out to little sides for epistine and some even say its good to get rid of gyno (if that is what I have)

Im a little lost as to do right now, should I start on some nolva. (Tamoxifen )
should go see the doc, or am I being paranoid.

The nipples just alittle bit sensitive, I only even notice when I had a box I was carrying scarped against them hard.

Any help would be much appreciated.

you could run some NOLVADEX 30-40mg daily until symptoms reside.

**kojak_x** · 01-14-2009, 06:25 PM

Im looking for the stuff now, having a hell of a time finding it. I have some sites online but not sure if they are reputable. I could find all the gear I want but to find some nolva or letro is giving me a god dam hell of a time. I don't understand; its pissing me off. I would think people who carry gear would carry shit for pct.

Thx for all the reply's by the way, much appreciated.