trenbolone ACE + test cycle

[boDAWG]

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[Phate]

Im in my second week of my cycle now, i do 50mg tren ace ED and test E 500mg a week

its my second week and im getting HUGE pumps, like my brother and girl and other people are starting to notice how huge i get after working out, im going for mass on this cycle hoping i drop some BF too though.

Now for my question, i get these HUGE pumps immediately after work out and then when the pumps are gone i feel REALLY weak and cant recover for about 4 days from soreness.....is this normal?


also im dropping weight, i went from 220 to 211 in about 2 weeks and i dont think its normal, my diet is definitely good.

im eating about 350-400 grams of protein with only one protein shake a day everything else comes from chicken and steak and stuff like that

well first you know we're gonna ask for stats
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
what was your first cycle
what is your pct for both cycles?
post up your diet



why aren't you running prop with the tren ace? right now you are basically running a tren only cycle since the enth is building up

[boDAWG]

well first you know we're gonna ask for stats
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
what was your first cycle
what is your pct for both cycles?
post up your diet



why aren't you running prop with the tren ace? right now you are basically running a tren only cycle since the enth is building up

yeah my bad tottaly forgot the stats, anyways its my firs cycle and i know i know it should have been test only but whatever im in it now, so i got tren ace and test prop, well test prop turned out to be bad and i found out a week into my cycle so i reordered more and itll be here in about 2 weeks, so im subsistuting test p with test e which doesnt make sense because test e takes a while to build up but thats all i had on hand and i figured better run some test with tren then no test at all.............

[reddohc]

im on tren ace and test e as well. i also get the awsome pumps and then it takes longer to recover..
id like to hear other opinions

[boDAWG]

im on tren ace and test e as well. i also get the awsome pumps and then it takes longer to recover..
id like to hear other opinions

how far are you into the cycle?

[WOLFCRAFT]

I've done that same cycle and for the first few weeks I would get really sore too. It stopped being as bad after that. It may just be soreness from shocking your muscles with heavier weights or something.

[boDAWG]

I've done that same cycle and for the first few weeks I would get really sore too. It stopped being as bad after that. It may just be soreness from shocking your muscles with heavier weights or something.

what kinda gains did u see outta it? how long did u run it for and what dosage?

[SpiderRico]

trens serious stuff for a first cycle i wouldnt recommend it but since you already started good luck

[boDAWG]

trens serious stuff for a first cycle i wouldnt recommend it but since you already started good luck

yeah i know man lol i ****ed up so now i just gotta stick it out and deal with whatever comes my way

[SpiderRico]

yeah i know man lol i ****ed up so now i just gotta stick it out and deal with whatever comes my way

hey sometimes you have to find out things the hard way good life lessons, in the end i think you will be happy

[boDAWG]

hey sometimes you have to find out things the hard way good life lessons, in the end i think you will be happy

ever done tren ace??? if so what kinda results did u see at what dose??? im planning on running it for 8 MAYBE 10 weeks

[WOLFCRAFT]

what kinda gains did u see outta it? how long did u run it for and what dosage?

Honestly I didn't get very killer gains off that particular cycle.
I put on around 10-15 pounds but I think most of it was water.
I kept some strength gains but nothing spectacular.
Also the tren made me a raging asshole, so I'll never do it again.
I was running 500mg of test enth a week and don't remember exactly what of tren ace EOD.

[RuhlFreak55]

interesting....so you guys are saying you get retardedly more sore than usual before your test kicks in when only on the tren ?
since more than one of you are saying it i'd assume it's common, maybe the tren kicks your ass in the gym more than it helps you recover through it's mechanism or something......just a thought

[boDAWG]

interesting....so you guys are saying you get retardedly more sore than usual before your test kicks in when only on the tren ?
since more than one of you are saying it i'd assume it's common, maybe the tren kicks your ass in the gym more than it helps you recover through it's mechanism or something......just a thought

hahaha maybe ...... i just wanted to see if anyone else had this happen to them too.....and im on week 2 and my girl is sayin that shes already seeing results on me like she says my arms are getting bigger and shit

[Nitro29]

I've never done that exact cycle (I have used both compounds but during different cycles), but I hardly get sore at all after I lift when I'm juicing, and I lift harder than ever during that time. I thought that was the norm, and a sign of muscles repairing fast. I think RuhlFreak55 is on to something...nitro

[boDAWG]

I've never done that exact cycle (I have used both compounds but during different cycles), but I hardly get sore at all after I lift when I'm juicing, and I lift harder than ever during that time. I thought that was the norm, and a sign of muscles repairing fast. I think RuhlFreak55 is on to something...nitro

what kinda gain did u see from tren

[Nitro29]

Hard to say. I was doing tren a/ test prop/ mast ED, so I'm not sure what gains were caused by which compound. But all in all, I could have done better, my diet wasnt the best, I injured my shouler, and I started the cycle too soon after my previous cycle. I am waiting the appropriate time and running GH/ slin this time for a few months before adding the test/tren/mast. Should see much better results this time, theres no doubt that tren a is the shit. I personally am a fan of short estered cycles with ED injections.

[boDAWG]

Hard to say. I was doing tren a/ test prop/ mast ED, so I'm not sure what gains were caused by which compound. But all in all, I could have done better, my diet wasnt the best, I injured my shouler, and I started the cycle too soon after my previous cycle. I am waiting the appropriate time and running GH/ slin this time for a few months before adding the test/tren/mast. Should see much better results this time, theres no doubt that tren a is the shit. I personally am a fan of short estered cycles with ED injections.

im switching out test e with test prop at 75mg ED

[Nitro29]

im switching out test e with test prop at 75mg ED

Smart move, if you want it to be a kick ass cycle, add masteron too. good luck bro...nitro

[Knockout_Power]

No experience with Tren , but it could be just a simple case of doing more more damage while seeing the great pumps so longer recovery time, this time will go down after the test kicks in full.

Makes sense. If the muscle group you are targeting get noticabley larger while working out(over and above the normal pump), you feel good and it naturally encourages you to push that little bit harder. That little bit that wasent done in your previous workouts is what hurts so bad. Almost like a plecibo effect, but its actually showing you results.

An example of this, maybe not directly related, is when I work arms. I usually dont do bi's and tri's same day. But, the odd time I will just to see the pump all the way around the arm. When I see how big my arm looks mid workout, Im super happy and it seems to make me try just a little harder (ei. add 5lbs to my usual max weight and try for the same number of reps)... I cant scratch my ass for 3 days =)

Thats just my 2 cents... or maybe a dime after all that writing

KP

[jimmyinkedup]

your cycle is a cluster fvck at this point bro ..i would have immediately jumped off tren when i realized test p was bad (how did u know that btw?), you were only 1 week in at that point, and then when i had everything id have jumped back on. Now test e b/c u had it- even though u are shut down and it will take a week or 2 to start to offset that....then back on prop. Your 21 years old..first cycle -running tren..now we got a bulking cycle where someone is saying throw in masteron (no offense and nothing personal bro - i just dont get that) ...a diet that is "on point" but you lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks ... i dunno man ... tell me you have a pct planned and u have the compounds necessary...
hell just tell me you know what pct means!?!?

[BloodyBillAnderson]

I added tren for 5 weeks to the end of a 20 week blast 75mg ed with 700mg test. I noticed better pumps but no additional soreness. I am always sore the second day after working a body part. If I'm not sore I figure I'm not growing.

[jimmyinkedup]

your cycle is a cluster fvck at this point bro ..i would have immediately jumped off tren when i realized test p was bad (how did u know that btw?), you were only 1 week in at that point, and then when i had everything id have jumped back on. Now test e b/c u had it- even though u are shut down and it will take a week or 2 to start to offset that....then back on prop. Your 21 years old..first cycle -running tren..now we got a bulking cycle where someone is saying throw in masteron (no offense and nothing personal bro - i just dont get that) ...a diet that is "on point" but you lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks ... i dunno man ... tell me you have a pct planned and u have the compounds necessary...
hell just tell me you know what pct means!?!?

ok so im done my rant... For some useful info. How about this idea...drop the tren ...stick with the test e or at least just test in some form ...get the "on point" diet in order. Run 10 weeks and do a good solid pct and save the tren for a later cycle? BTW - in all likelihood if you lost 10lbs in 2 weeks and are sore as hell one of my first initial thoughts is nutrition (or lack there of ). Something to consider...

[Knockout_Power]

ok so im done my rant... For some useful info. How about this idea...drop the tren ...stick with the test e or at least just test in some form ...get the "on point" diet in order. Run 10 weeks and do a good solid pct and save the tren for a later cycle? BTW - in all likelihood if you lost 10lbs in 2 weeks and are sore as hell one of my first initial thoughts is nutrition (or lack there of ). Something to consider...

I think he's 100% on this one. Grab the gains from the simple test cycle and try and keep them. Its more predictable.

Never say "to hell with it, Im just going to finish since Ive already started." God knows what the negative results from a bad cycle could be. Your only 2 weeks in, not a bad time to reconsider and make a smart "safe" choice

[boDAWG]

your cycle is a cluster fvck at this point bro ..i would have immediately jumped off tren when i realized test p was bad (how did u know that btw?), you were only 1 week in at that point, and then when i had everything id have jumped back on. Now test e b/c u had it- even though u are shut down and it will take a week or 2 to start to offset that....then back on prop. Your 21 years old..first cycle -running tren..now we got a bulking cycle where someone is saying throw in masteron (no offense and nothing personal bro - i just dont get that) ...a diet that is "on point" but you lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks ... i dunno man ... tell me you have a pct planned and u have the compounds necessary...
hell just tell me you know what pct means!?!?

pct mean post cycle therapy , and i have nolvadex , clomid for pct and i also have letro on hand in case of gyno, im also running arimidex eod

[boDAWG]

ok so im done my rant... For some useful info. How about this idea...drop the tren ...stick with the test e or at least just test in some form ...get the "on point" diet in order. Run 10 weeks and do a good solid pct and save the tren for a later cycle? BTW - in all likelihood if you lost 10lbs in 2 weeks and are sore as hell one of my first initial thoughts is nutrition (or lack there of ). Something to consider...

alright cool, well i think imma drop the tren then and continue with test e, do you guys think i should still switch to prop when i get it???

also i figured why i THOUGHT i dropped 10lbs, i weighed myself at home and then never weighed myself again on that scale i weighed myself at the scale at the gym, i just reweighted myself and im up 3lbs


but i think imma finish off a test e cycle then and save my 50ml of tren a for a later time

[jimmyinkedup]

is your pct set? do you have what you need and whats your plan? lets at least make this as safe and productive as possible since you took the plunge - so to speak.

[boDAWG]

is your pct set? do you have what you need and whats your plan? lets at least make this as safe and productive as possible since you took the plunge - so to speak.

well this was my plan

since im using test e 2 wks after last injection im doing
100mg of clomid and 40mg of nolva thats week one
then week 2 and 3 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva
so it would be a total of 3 weeks of pct i might run it for about 4 weeks though not sure yet

and if i switch to test prop then id start the PCT 3 days after the last injections

[boDAWG]

oh and im doing 0.50mg of arimidex EOD right now

[jimmyinkedup]

well this was my plan

since im using test e 2 wks after last injection im doing
100mg of clomid and 40mg of nolva thats week one
then week 2 and 3 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva
so it would be a total of 3 weeks of pct i might run it for about 4 weeks though not sure yet

and if i switch to test prop then id start the PCT 3 days after the last injections

looks good and id add in that 4th week IMO...

[boDAWG]

looks good and id add in that 4th week IMO...

okay, so in ur opinion should i stay on tren and test e since its been 2 wks already or should i drop the tren and switch to prop when i get it or what???

[jimmyinkedup]

i thought u said u were going to test only?? thats what id recommend (drop tren save for another cycle))...JMO...

[Mammon]

just skimmed through but i think id just stay with the enanthate

[boDAWG]

i thought u said u were going to test only?? thats what id recommend (drop tren save for another cycle))...JMO...

yuuup, finish off 500mg weekly split into 250 twice a week and do it for like 10 wks and save my tren

[WOLFCRAFT]

I've done 2 tren cycles and had the soreness issue both times.

[onefm]

21 is still a little young to start doing test IMO... Anyways, you should get some solid gains as long as your diet, and training are in line.. That's one of the popular stacks these days..


and why don't you just do 100mg of Tren EOD? Save you on some pins, and pokes..

[MgpGator]

"How did you know the test p was bad?" x2

[boDAWG]

just a quick update i had to seize the cycle and start it up again, im on test prop50mg and tren ace 50mg ed i got 4 weeks left and im up to 268lbs

[steropower]

trens serious stuff for a first cycle i wouldnt recommend it but since you already started good luck

x2

It is amazing in late years how easy every novice steroid user jumps into the Tren without haven't tried anything of the less harsh but effective compounds.

I did 10 years of every other stuff before going into Tren.Now i know how it really compares with other steroids and if it really worths.

[boDAWG]

i might have jumped into it too early but i dont regret it at all