Finally found some

[GusInc]

Finally found a source....

For my FIRST cycle this guy recommends 1cc twice/wk of both winny and decca.

What do you think, what should be in PCT and anything else I need to stack it with?

help appreciated

[chuckt12345]

test should be your first cycle man.

[MMArmour]

JESUS. Where the HELL are people getting this winny/deca stack bs from???? Nonono bad idea bro. First thing is first...what are your stats?

Age
Weight
Bf%
Training Exp?
i wont ask cycle experience.

whatever you do...DO NOT BUY THAT DECA/WINNY STACK. Youre in the right place bro.

[FranKieC]

JESUS. Where the HELL are people getting this winny/deca stack bs from???? Nonono bad idea bro. First thing is first...what are your stats?

Age
Weight
Bf%
Training Exp?
i wont ask cycle experience.

whatever you do...DO NOT BUY THAT DECA/WINNY STACK. Youre in the right place bro.

I think you should take your time and do a little more research. Knowledge is power

[Mammon]

what your source recommended that??
forget the deca /winny..

[GusInc]

Age 25
Weight 170
Height 5'8"
bf% unsure maybe like 13-15
training exp: 3yrs my own and 5 years prior for football


anything other than test

diet is in check as well

[honda450]

JESUS. Where the HELL are people getting this winny/deca stack bs from???? Nonono bad idea bro. First thing is first...what are your stats?

Age
Weight
Bf%
Training Exp?
i wont ask cycle experience.

whatever you do...DO NOT BUY THAT DECA/WINNY STACK. Youre in the right place bro.

Agreed with what he said.. don't listen to that. Kind of makes me worry why people even tell others to do this, especially as a first. Deca without test too? Meh..

[GusInc]

source is in a sport for a college that I attend but won't name

[markhyena]

Ummm i dunno that much... but I do know that you need test in a cycle.....

[chuckt12345]

Age 25
Weight 170
Height 5'8"
bf% unsure maybe like 13-15
training exp: 3yrs my own and 5 years prior for football


anything other than test

diet is in check as well

You dont wanna do test but wanna do deca ?

[*RAGE*]

JESUS. Where the HELL are people getting this winny/deca stack bs from???? Nonono bad idea bro. First thing is first...what are your stats?

Age
Weight
Bf%
Training Exp?
i wont ask cycle experience.

whatever you do...DO NOT BUY THAT DECA/WINNY STACK. Youre in the right place bro.

I guess he just missed the post you put up. man is this fu**** deja vu

[lord henry]

wow deca /winny x2 per week

1st of winny needs to be injected every day man\

2nd deca is (can) be very supresive for some and with no test it may be a nightmere on your sex drive .

test e or c only for 1st cycle man .

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e/c

get in the pct forum and find a good pct for your cycle ,there are lots of good pct,s in the forum.

[Mammon]

without test your setting yourself up for some issues.. lethargy, low to no sex drive,impotance, harder recovery post cycle the list goes on..

[*RAGE*]

Put the needle down and step away....I want you to pull your dic* out take a knife and cut it off. Then I want you to get your girlfriends bra and put it on... Then I want you to walk around like that for the next month and if you like that do the cycle...if not read......

[MMArmour]

source is an idiot gambling with other peoples bodies. please dont name. no care ever. ALMOST everyone on this site is advocate of test as a first cycle choice and I am too. Normally you would be told to go do some reading about these compounds. and im going to tell you that same thing. But for fear of you running off and inj. some deca /winny regardless of our advice... ill point you toward testosterone enanthate or cypionate and pct of nolvadex and clomid. go research.

[GusInc]

how often should I be doing 500mg.... like twice a week?

[MMArmour]

put the needle down and step away....i want you to pull your dic* out take a knife and cut it off. Then i want you to get your girlfriends bra and put it on... Then i want you to walk around like that for the next month and if you like that do the cycle...if not read......

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[chuckt12345]

yup 2x a wk
for 10 to 12 wks

read up on here b4 you purchase anything,, youll learn alot

[lord henry]

how often should I be doing 500mg.... like twice a week?

yes 250mgs mon and 250mgs thurs.

nolva/clomid pct.

[Mammon]

250mg twice a week

[MMArmour]

how often should I be doing 500mg.... like twice a week?

EXACTLY.

1-12wks of Test E @ 500mg/wk split into two 250mg/e3.5d
and then proceed with a standard pct protocol.

slap your source in the face with a brick that has this websites URL written on the side. Tell him we say "hi!"

[Mammon]

man i gotta be quick.. you guys are all over this thread.. by the time i post there are 3 more replies..

[chuckt12345]

LOL,, my first cycle when i didnt know anything was deca winny,, bad thing its been my biggest gainer so far and i had no bad sides from it. But i would never do it again.

[MMArmour]

Chuck! no way?! Ah shit man! You werent squishy as hell?

[chuckt12345]

Chuck! no way?! Ah shit man! You werent squishy as hell?

no man, i was actually pretty ripped at the end. Think i went from 188 to 218in like 8 or 9 wks. I cant say my BF went alot lower but my muscle ratio went way up.

[MMArmour]

crazy talk! maybe toss in 250mg/wk of test e next time to cover the 19nor problems and see how you do again?? hahaha

[Canadream]

lol time for a new source then if he is saying winny 2x week lol

[GusInc]

will I be gaining water weight from just test

[MMArmour]

hell no! there is some water weight associated with test but man i LOVE test. I noticed almost NO water retention. Besides....deca (with the exception of chuck) should make you look like a water balloon full of pudding. Test. Way to go bro. Especially for your knowledge level.

[GusInc]

That's just his suggestion ... I'm not saying that's what I'm gonna buy from him

[Mammon]

if your worried about a little water retention run an AI through the cycle

[Kale]

If you dont like sex then go for it, its a great cycle. If you do like sex then do this

wk 1-12 500mg Test E split in half and shot Mon and Thur
wk 1-4 Dbol 40 mg ED

If you are at all worried about water weight then you can do 0.25mg Arimidex EOD for 12 weeks

Then you need to do a proper PCT.

[Immortal Soldier]

source is in a sport for a college that I attend but won't name

1. You are 25 and in college? BS
2. You don't look 25 in that picture
3. How about you tell us your real age?

Don't wanna sound like a dick, but I just can't believe your 25.

[Jfew44]

^^ ???

1- I know plenty of 25 year old college students.
2- How can you tell and why do you care?

[Immortal Soldier]

^^ ???

1- I know plenty of 25 year old college students.
2- How can you tell and why do you care?

Yeah, I do too and they look like their age. Believe me Im really good at telling peoples age.

Also I read through some of his posts, I believe he is either a freshman/sophmore.

LOL...I don't even know why I care about his age. Just don't like getting lied to...


I am going all in that he is not 25


Anyways advice to the OP: Do a test-e only cycle 500mgs/week (250mgs every 3.5 days) and if your worried about water gain take Armidex while on.

Also I read the thread where you got lactation from H-drol/Mass tabs, this might mean your more sensitive to estrogen sides. Did you gyno off that? (ie. do you have a lump in either of your breast?) If so I would def. have nolva on hand throughout the cycle and also take armidex while on to make sure you don't get any signifcant amount of estrogen build up.


Sorry bout messing with you about your age.....(seriously you cant be 25)

[GusInc]

well since I don't have a female host to carry my offspring currently I can do without the sex

[GusInc]

dammit found me out I'm only 21 but I just didn't wanna hear shit from guys who say not to do any unless over 25 but in fact started out in high school

[Immortal Soldier]

dammit found me out I'm only 21 but I just didn't wanna hear shit from guys who say not to do any unless over 25 but in fact started out in high school

I knew it!!! Damn I am good, helll yeah motha****ers!!!

So you started doing PH's in high school? I did a cycle of pro-hormone in high school, senior year. However, alot of kids did it younger than me and ended up stunting their growth, so I waited.

Anyways, I edited my post above that includes my advice on what to take and everything.

Best of Luck

[Mammon]

21 is on the fringe.. if everything is in check,put in the time,done the research and have the knowledge to do this safely and responsibly i have no issues at 21.. can go either way for me..

[GusInc]

no I did first PH this past June so like half a year ago and I'm a junior in college