I am prone to gyno-use ADEX or Nolva?

**Civic0** · 01-22-2009, 10:56 AM

Running a cycle:

1-15 700mg cyp
1-12 500 mg eg
1-4 50mg/anadrol

I am prone to gyno, nipps become sensitive and I have a very small knot behind one of them..

should I take ADEX to stop the gyno during the first 4 weeks or Nolva? How much?

I think .5 mg ADEX EOD or 10MG nolva ED??

**redz** · 01-22-2009, 10:58 AM

I think adex is a good choice to run on cycle. .5mg adex eod and then adjust dosing as needed after that.

**Mammon** · 01-22-2009, 11:33 AM

could use both if you wanted..
id use the adex and have the nolvadex on hand to use just in case

**Civic0** · 02-07-2009, 12:53 AM

taking a-dex .5mg/day. My nipps are getting puffier (not sensitive to the touch) and they are starting to point VERY SLIGHTLY. Small pea size lump behind one of them. WHat should I do now?! Up to 1mg/day?

BTW That lump has been there for almost a year......

**lincoln9** · 02-07-2009, 01:02 AM

I think .25mg ed or eod is the normal dose, not .5mg

**briancb1** · 02-07-2009, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by lincoln9

I think .25mg ed or eod is the normal dose, not .5mg

That depends on the individual actually. Just like smoking, some get cancer from second hand smoke and others live to 85 smoking over a pack a day.

I personally had to use .5mg a day and still had gyno... got surgery and never looked back. worth every penny

**lincoln9** · 02-07-2009, 01:33 AM

If your taking .5mg a day of adex and your still getting gyno, shouldn't you consider stopping the adex and starting something stronger, like letrozole or nolva to try to reverse it?

**Immortal Soldier** · 02-07-2009, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by lincoln9

If your taking .5mg a day of adex and your still getting gyno, shouldn't you consider stopping the adex and starting something stronger, like letrozole or nolva to try to reverse it?

No, letro will oblierate the estrogen and hinder his gains on cycle.

He should up the Adex dosage while taking nolva at 40mg (bump up to 60mg if its still bother him) till the gyno subsides.

The adex will limit estrogen in the body while the nolva prevents the estrogen that is circulating to not bind with the breast tissue.

**KeyserSoze1** · 02-07-2009, 01:38 AM

So you recommend taking Adex with a Test cycle then? What if you want to control SOME water retention....but are NOT prone to acne or gyno? Pros vs Cons?

**lincoln9** · 02-07-2009, 01:40 AM

Read this thread on letrozole it may help you decide All you need to know about GYNO.

**lincoln9** · 02-07-2009, 01:46 AM

Yes Keyser, adex is better IMO to run on cycle at low doses like .25 eod if that doesn't work up it to ed to control bloat. Letro is for trying to reverse gyno as the last resort if the adex didn't keep it from happening in the first place.

**Immortal Soldier** · 02-07-2009, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by KeyserSoze1

So you recommend taking Adex with a Test cycle then? What if you want to control SOME water retention....but are NOT prone to acne or gyno? Pros vs Cons?

No, I recommend it if you are sensitive to gyno and/or you want to keep estrogen related sides down (bloating).

The pros of taking adex at a very low dosage is it will prevent excess water storage, the cons I can only think of is you limit estrogen which can cause you to not gain as much as you could, but it wouldn't be a very big difference just a small subtle difference.

But if adex is low, i doubt it will be noticeable.

Originally Posted by lincoln9

Read this thread on letrozole it may help you decide All you need to know about GYNO.

Letro will be the most powerful AI you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

Not to mention it takes two weeks to stablize in the blood so even if he switched its not like the effects would be instant.

Letro should be used if you feel there is no other alternative WHILE YOUR ON CYCLE because it hinders estrogen to such a great extent

**KeyserSoze1** · 02-07-2009, 01:55 AM

My Adex pills are 1mg each. What would you recommend as a "low dosage" ? Again, I am not acne or gyno prone....*knocks on wood*

**lincoln9** · 02-07-2009, 01:59 AM

Cut them into 4 pieces and take 1/4 pill every second day. See if you like the results.

**KeyserSoze1** · 02-07-2009, 02:04 AM

unfortunately they are capsules....lol....any other advice?

**lincoln9** · 02-07-2009, 02:16 AM

You could get a capsule maker and 1/4 it up into new capsules. Look into the capmquik size 1 capsules.

**KeyserSoze1** · 02-07-2009, 02:18 AM

ok....any idea where to get these things? Im in canada

**lincoln9** · 02-07-2009, 02:24 AM

capmquik ships them to canada. I just ordered one about a month ago for a friend, only took only a week to get here. You can also buy them in Canada at canadianmedsupplies but they only have one size but it would do. They have a flat shipping rate of 17cad for express post but they ship cod and you would have it by tuesday or wednesday by the latest.

**Civic0** · 02-07-2009, 11:24 AM

Ok, no one answered my questions these newbies started their own thread on my thread....what should I do?/

**Immortal Soldier** · 02-07-2009, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Civic0

Ok, no one answered my questions these newbies started their own thread on my thread....what should I do?/

Adex .5mg EOD if you start feeling itchy nipples bump up the dosage and run nolva at 40mgs.

**vibnad1991** · 02-08-2009, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

No, letro will oblierate the estrogen and hinder his gains on cycle.

He should up the Adex dosage while taking nolva at 40mg (bump up to 60mg if its still bother him) till the gyno subsides.

The adex will limit estrogen in the body while the nolva prevents the estrogen that is circulating to not bind with the breast tissue.

why is estrogen necessary for gains?. however from what you siad it sounds like that ou should use adex to lower estrogen level, and just in case any estrogen binds to breast tissure take nolva as well.

**Immortal Soldier** · 02-08-2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by vibnad1991

why is estrogen necessary for gains?. however from what you siad it sounds like that ou should use adex to lower estrogen level, and just in case any estrogen binds to breast tissure take nolva as well.

Research has shown that Estrogen increases the mitogen activated protein kinase cascade, localized IGF-1, and an increase in system growth hormone levels.

The protein kinase cascade is an important reaction for IGF-1 and insulin to cause their anabolic effect. The raising of Growth hormone as a result of estrogen, also plays a synergistic role with testosterone and other anabolic hormones. Estrogen also helps in the process of retaining water, which can help cell volumization and ultimately leads to increased protein synthesis.

So you need some estrogen in the body to help you grow.

And yes to the last part of your statement, thats what I said. Letro is only recommended if you have a history of gyno and that your are sensitive to estrogen levels.