Article on Dbol vs Anadrol

[honda450]

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For many years, a great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of them have stood the test of time; dianabol and anadrol . The debate has continued, arguing which of the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by dbol and some swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both products.


Anadrol ( oxymetholone) was first made available in the 1960’s by Syntex. It is very effective at increasing red blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia. With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which have less androgenic side effects, Anadrol was discontinued. New studies in AIDS/HIV patients revealed Anadrol was particularly effective at reducing wasting symptoms so it was re-released in the late 1990’s.

Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some users, there are other pathways by which it converts. After looking at studies on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex .

Dianabol ( methandrostenolone ) was first made in 1956 by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. Dianabol has been one of the most popular oral steroids of all time, exploding in popularity in the 1970’s with bodybuilders and football players and expanding into all avenues of athletics during the 1980’s. It somewhat waned during the 1990’s with the steroid control act, but was hot again in the early 2000’s with reproduction in mass quantities by Mexican labs and underground labs.

Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and hence will convert to estrogen. Gyno will be a concern for sure, in almost all users, whereas only less than 25% have problems with Anadrol. Again water retention will be a problem, usually due to the estrogenic properties.

Both products will have similar androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha alkylated, therefore liver protection will be necessary, especially when combining the two.

So we come to the premise of this article, Anadrol vs. Dianabol. Why, the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways, have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are liver toxic. So why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well, as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product. Many people, including myself, find high doses of Anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results you get. With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches.

On the other hand, when I take Dianabol, I get a general sense of well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating. It sounds like I should keep taking Dianabol and drop the Anadrol, right? Wrong. I get massive male pattern baldness from Dianabol, which I do not experience from Anadrol. I have an increase in blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from Anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the massive dosages I take to get good gains. So in all, I get some side effects from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits that I can only get from each product.

Anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. Dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as much water retention as Anadrol. So what is the compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my next cycle?

The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change yourself gains in either department when you can have your cake and eat it too. I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with Anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with Dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them at the same time to increase the benefits.

My recommendation is to take both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. Dianabol has been found to work much better for quality gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of the product because of the short cycle (4-6 weeks) and most of the aforementioned side-effects.

Your dosages will be cycle history dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of 200mg Dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg Anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my Dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my Anadrol use to 100mg per day and because of the synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar but with none of the sides. There is something very synergistic when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone and deca -durabolin .

I would run my Anadrol cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my Dianabol cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no liver toxic effects as proven by my quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for most users. I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose of Anadrol.

I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the Anadrol and Dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways. Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up.


What do you guys think of what he said about combining? Anyone ever done this and would YOU recommend it? and why?

[CMPD213]

That is my exact cycle basically, which im doing im may.. Deca , Test, Drol, and Dbol . Either letro or Adex as an AI though... I've heard great things about combining the two

[DrSauce99]

Those are some massive doseages... can you give info on your stats/results?

[johnnybigguns]

I haven't done it yet but I definitely think I am going to try it

[Mammon]

200mg Dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg Anadrol per 6 week cycle

uhhh sides.. no shit... lol

what he dropped to is what is recommemded to run ... and just one or the other not both.... if running both of those together which personally i wouldnt id even cut those doses in half..

[#47]

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I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the Anadrol and Dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways. Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up.


What do you guys think of what he said about combining? Anyone ever done this and would YOU recommend it? and why?

from what ive learned combining a 19-nor (such as deca) with Nolva is not a good idea as it will cause prolactin problems. someone please correct me if i am wrong.
i have never tried combining them before but the doses he mentioned in the cycles by themselves seem extremely high and even the doses he reccomends you use when combining them i think is still pretty high.
100mg anadrol per day should be a sufficient amount by its self without the 50mg dbol which also on its own (with a test base of course) is a good dose for most people, not all tho of course.

[johnnybigguns]

I was thinking of trying 25-30mg dbol and 50mg drol

[Mammon]

yeah that would be more like it if your going to give it a run..

[drummerofgod87]

Current Cycle:

Week 1 - 12: 750mg Test E per week with 1.5g frontload first week
Week 1 - 6: 600mg Tren E per week with 1.2g frontload first week
Week 1 - 6: 100mg Anadrol per day
Week 1 - 6: 50mg Dianabol per day

So far, it has been a pretty badass cycle. I'm only a week in, and I'm already up 14 lbs. I'm experiencing no side effects really either except feeling like a ****ing tank. I'm using no AI right now because I've never needed one, but we'll see how it goes with the Anadrol added into the mixture. This is my first time using both Dianabol and Anadrol at the same time, and it's actually my first time using Anadrol period. Absolutely loving it. I weigh 263 right now. Next time, I'm probably going to do almost the same cycle, but with 100mg ED of Tren A.

[honda450]

Current Cycle:

Week 1 - 12: 750mg Test E per week with 1.5g frontload first week
Week 1 - 6: 600mg Tren E per week with 1.2g frontload first week
Week 1 - 6: 100mg Anadrol per day
Week 1 - 6: 50mg Dianabol per day

So far, it has been a pretty badass cycle. I'm only a week in, and I'm already up 14 lbs. I'm experiencing no side effects really either except feeling like a ****ing tank. I'm using no AI right now because I've never needed one, but we'll see how it goes with the Anadrol added into the mixture. This is my first time using both Dianabol and Anadrol at the same time, and it's actually my first time using Anadrol period. Absolutely loving it. I weigh 263 right now. Next time, I'm probably going to do almost the same cycle, but with 100mg ED of Tren A.

That's insane. Would of been a good log in the MEMBERS RESULTS area. Let us know if you pick up any more sides from the current cycle. That's bad ass, the Tren A would be even good in that right now for the last couple weeks.

[drummerofgod87]

That's insane. Would of been a good log in the MEMBERS RESULTS area. Let us know if you pick up any more sides from the current cycle. That's bad ass, the Tren A would be even good in that right now for the last couple weeks.

Yeah it's really strange, I'm using all new tren , anadrol , and dbol from a lab and source I've never tried before. So far, no side effects but obvious water retention, but I look way bigger already. It's obviously still too early to tell cuz I'm only 9 days in. My source's Tren A hasn't been getting good reviews (it's a new source), but their Tren E was getting good reviews, so I went with the Tren E and a frontload. Kinda wish I could've afforded another vial, but I'm a college student, so oh well. I got a job now though, so I will definitely be able to afford Tren A (from a different source I found recently) for 10 weeks instead of a mediocre 6 next time. Well, actually I am running a short cutting cycle this summer for 6 weeks, so my next cycle after that will be a bulker.

I'll also keep you guys up to date on my shit that's going down.

EDIT: Actually, not sure if it's the Tren, but last night, I set aside 7 hours for sleep and didn't fall asleep for 6 hours. May be the Trensonmia. This has happened only one night.

[honda450]

I'm not looking forward to the not being able to sleep when I'm on cycle. I can barely sleep at it is. Nothin beats havin a hot girlfriend that snores... hah

[Bossman]

EDIT: Actually, not sure if it's the Tren, but last night, I set aside 7 hours for sleep and didn't fall asleep for 6 hours. May be the Trensonmia. This has happened only one night.

The drol can give you insomnia as well. You may want to look into a sleep aid.

[JiGGaMaN]

The drol can give you insomnia as well. You may want to look into a sleep aid.

*non habit-forming sleep aid.

[drummerofgod87]

Last night, I tried a sleep aid and slept like a baby. I also notice a more sweating. That makes more more comfortable.