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    Think My Dealer Gave Me Prop

    Im currently on a test Eth cycle and i ran out so i consulted my dealer and he gave me a bottle with no label on it (i know thats bad but i trust him and hes always given me good stuff). I just wanted to know if Prop and Eth are the same color liquid? Also, Can i switch b/t these 2 if it is Prop? Both bottles are the same color--yellowish liquid. Thanks guys

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    the color won't determine what ester it is, and if it's prop how would you know what the concentration is, and how often would you inject it? also, if they are the same color, what would make you think it's prop?

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    why swinging back and forth. u should finish what u start.

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    Thats what im trying to figure out... im only doing 300mg TesE a wk. So the color has nothin ta do w/ what kind it is? I might just ask him if he can get me another bottle? Is Prop the one that doesnt hurt as much??? Bc he was sayin this one doesnt have the soreness the Tes E has after u inject. And can i mix/match prop and tes e or no?

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    And i did finish what i started. My dealer said it was E but im skeptical bc there is no label!!!

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    color won't tell you what it is. I'm still not following you, it looks the same, but no label, so you think it's prop, but why wouldn't you think it's sust, or cyp? anywho, no, the injection frequency and pct start times for prop are very different, don't switch to prop unless you have a firm enough understanding to make necessary corrections in the cycle.

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    Alright thanks!!! I just have this bottle without a label and he showed me a label pulled off a bottle that said prop. Ill see if he can trade me bottles or somethin!!!

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    prop you have to inject more often than enenthate due to it's shorter half life.

    switching over mid cycle is a baaaaaaaaaaaad idea...

    sounds like you need a new source...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robman0079 View Post
    Alright thanks!!! I just have this bottle without a label and he showed me a label pulled off a bottle that said prop. Ill see if he can trade me bottles or somethin!!!
    seems a bit weird that he would give you a vial that had no label he said was test e , then show you a label off of a vial of prop. as long as you trust the guy you should be fine, if you don't then I wouldn't be using his gear anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    color won't tell you what it is. I'm still not following you, it looks the same, but no label, so you think it's prop, but why wouldn't you think it's sust, or cyp? anywho, no, the injection frequency and pct start times for prop are very different, don't switch to prop unless you have a firm enough understanding to make necessary corrections in the cycle.
    thats what i was wondering... but if you trust him enough, just get him to take it back and give you another test e. also, this is why people say have everything before you start

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    You guys have it all wrong. You arent looking at his reasoning behind why he thinks its prop: If i read this correctly he thinks its prop because of something to do with the pain factor, which makes no sense. Our friend is just a bit confused. He likely has test e.

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    your kinda pissin in the wind with this cuz he could have gave you anything he wanted to hopfully hes a good guy and gave you test e you can change test cuz test is test but shot frequency what type of results you are looking for possibly could change

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    Thats why I would never start a cycle unless I have enough to finish it. Pct and all.

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    yea you can switch over to prop,, just make sure you find out for sure what it is first.

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    I wouldn't shoot anything without a label. He took it off for a reason. Probably didnt' have what you needed, so he sold you what he had and tore off the label. I would not have taken the vial unlabeled, but you already did. At least call him and ask for a new labeled vial.

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    If your dealer gave it to you ask him whats in it, we would have no idea especially with no label

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    no matter how you look at it, its a fvcked up scenario! no one should put up with this type of shit. take your biz elsewhere is the best advice you will get out of this! some people will fvck their mothers for a dollar. good sources ar far and in between!

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    Who on earth is suppyling Vials with no labels? where is the label? You better know this guy well or I wouldnt touch that sht

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    Quote Originally Posted by rager View Post
    Who on earth is suppyling Vials with no labels? where is the label? You better know this guy well or I wouldnt touch that sht
    Agreed!

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    plus, you have it backwards I believe. The Prop will leave you sore compared to the Enanth.

    it could have alot to do with the oil/oils that were used in the manufacturing of it too(as far as pain goes)

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    omg,no labels and you shot it. hmmm,its real strange.i hope you know him

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    How long have you been on (what you thought was) test e ? How frequent? Any results?

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    That is mad sketchy, why would you ever buy from a street dealer?

    IMO buy directly from a UGL or Distributor, don't ever go through a "middleman" unless that middleman is as close to you as possibly without being family. You could get ripped off one day with these guys..

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    FWIW, I have Test-E and Test-P in clear vials. They look exaclty the same. Hell my EQ is oil based also, it looks exactly the same as the two Tests. I also have Test-E at two different concentrations they are exactly the same looks.

    Was the first vial from he gave you labeled with concentration? or does he make it himself? Nothing wrong with home grown stuff, so long as you really trust this guy and he has some Chemistry skills. If he can provide you with concentration per ml, no worries. But if he's just some guy you know that sells gear, do some more research and find a better source. Not worth the risks. For all you know he put some cotton seed oil in a vial and sold it to you. You would not be able to tell by eye if the oil has gear in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey View Post
    FWIW, I have Test-E and Test-P in clear vials. They look exaclty the same. Hell my EQ is oil based also, it looks exactly the same as the two Tests. I also have Test-E at two different concentrations they are exactly the same looks.

    Was the first vial from he gave you labeled with concentration? or does he make it himself? Nothing wrong with home grown stuff, so long as you really trust this guy and he has some Chemistry skills. If he can provide you with concentration per ml, no worries. But if he's just some guy you know that sells gear, do some more research and find a better source. Not worth the risks. For all you know he put some cotton seed oil in a vial and sold it to you. You would not be able to tell by eye if the oil has gear in it.

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    no chemistry required for homebrew. just simple math and resourcefulness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    no chemistry required for homebrew. just simple math and resourcefulness.
    Very true, but its surprising how many people can't convert grams to miligrams or accurately measure and weight something. When mixing different compounds and heating etc.. its good to know why something crashed when your done making it. This is all in the realm of Chemistry imo. Not to the level of knowing the structures of the compounds, I know in the end its more like baking cookies and following a recipe. Put it this way, my wife makes cookies from scratch, they aren't that good. If she homebrewed steroids , you couldn't pay me enough to inject it. Who knows what this guys dealer is doing.

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    I think edited just did that too me!

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