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    For Test Only, what do you recommend?

    Alright, So I've been on here reading and doing some research, and I think that I want to go with a test ONLY cycle. Question is, which test do you recommend? The first test cycle (and only) I did was Test Enanthate , I want to say 500mg/week for 10 weeks. (may be incorrect, it's been 3 years)

    I retained a ton of water from that, so I'm trying not to do the Test E. What test would you recommend? I don't mind shooting EOD.

    And depending on your recommendations, how would you run the PCT?

    Also, I'm looking at perhaps doing 15 weeks.

    Thanks for the help!

    P.S I'm 6'0'' 215 LBs, not a very hard gainer.

    I'll also be doing a significant amount of cardio...two bike sessions a day for a total of 14 mile/day, 5 days a week. (It's how I get to work)

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    test e is fine, improper diet can cause water retention, if you're prone to bloat an ai on cycle could help.

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    So of all the tests, you would recommend E again?

    and I apologize but i'm not sure what "an ai on cycle" is?

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    AI= Aromatase Inhibitor

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    Quote Originally Posted by murphylee View Post
    So of all the tests, you would recommend E again?

    and I apologize but i'm not sure what "an ai on cycle" is?
    Test E or test Cyp is great

    AI= Aromatase inhibitor (sp) that helps prevent test from turning into estrogen during cycle

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    yes, of course.

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    so running nolvadex during the whole cycle then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murphylee View Post
    so running nolvadex during the whole cycle then?
    I wouldn't use a serm, I would use an ai. I'd use arimidex if I was concerned with bloat.

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    and at what dosage would you recommend that? and every day for how many weeks during the cycle?

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    do the same cycle you did three years ago

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    if I were to use arimidex I would start at .25mg/eod at the first sign of bloat.

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    and what else would you do for PCT?

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    Research, we all had to do it. Figure it out and post up a proposed pct and then we can help you from there.




    Quote Originally Posted by murphylee View Post
    and what else would you do for PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottomaddox View Post
    Research, we all had to do it. Figure it out and post up a proposed pct and then we can help you from there.
    x2^^

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    Alright. I've been doing my research, and from what I have read (and thanks to some of the help I've received directly from you guys) this is tentatively what I have come up with...


    week:1-4 D-bol 40mg e/d

    week:1-10 Enth 500mg, (if needed) Arimidex .25mg/eod

    PCT:
    week: 13-14 Clomid 50mg E/D Nolva 20mg e/d

    week:14-16 Clomid 25mg E/D Nolva 20mg e/d

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    you're listing week 14 twice, but otherwise ok.

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    my mistake, typo. 15-16.

    Alright, looks like this is what I'm going to do.

    Now, with that out of the way...

    What do you advise on running that for a little longer, like say the test for 12?

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    test for 12 would be fine.

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    alright, thanks for all of the help big.

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    i know that hcg vs clom vs nolva is a debated topic, but what we you guys use for pct. i though hcg would be more effective in increasing endogenous testosterone

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    Quote Originally Posted by vibnad1991 View Post
    i know that hcg vs clom vs nolva is a debated topic, but what we you guys use for pct. i though hcg would be more effective in increasing endogenous testosterone
    hcg on it's own is suppressive, research a bit then start your own thread if questions remain.

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