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    Arrow Requesting Advise on Clenbuterol T3/T4 Cutting Cycle

    I am planning a 6 week cutting cycle and would appreciate any input or advice. Thanks

    My stats at this time:
    5'10"
    205lbs
    11% BF

    My diet is very clean right now. Around 2500 Cal/Day
    300-320 grams protien
    60 grams carbs - low days (M,W,Th,Sat)
    or 140 grams carbs - medium days (Sun,T,F)
    60-70 grams fats (mostly good fats)

    Workouts:
    Sun: off or 1hr walking on treadmill
    M,W,F: HIT Lifting Routine and 30min walk in evening
    Tues: 30min run/30min walk and 20min swim in evening
    Thur: Wind Sprints 10x20yd & 10x40yd and 20min swim in evening
    Sat: 1 hr walk

    Using:
    Liquid Clenbuterol - 100mcg/mL
    Ketotifen - 1mg tablets
    T3/T4 Cytomix - 80mcg tablets (60mcg T3/20mcg T4)

    Cycle:
    Week 1: Clen - Tapering up dosage to no more than 160 mcg/day (testing my tolerance)

    Weeks 2-3: Clen - 160 mcg ed.
    Ketotifen - 2 mg before bed ed.

    Weeks 4-6: Clen - 160 mcg ed. Tapering down dosage at end of week 6.
    Ketotifen - 2 mg before bed ed.
    T3/T4 Cytomix - Tapering up dosage to 90mcg T3/30mcg T4 ed.

    I will taper down my dosage of T3/T4 at the end of week 6.


    I will be supplementing Taurine at 4-5 grams per day and Postassium at 200-400 mcg per day to prevent cramping.

    I am on ECA right now at 25/200/325 with 20 mg of Yohimbine HCl ed.

    I will cut out the Ephedrine, but I was wondering if I could continue running the Caffine, Aspirin, and the Yohimbine?


    Thank You again for your advice.

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    i would personally lower my clen doasge to around 100mcg daily and increase the T3/T4 dosage to 150-200mcg daily. you will have way more sides with the clen at a higher dose. using T3 is a cake walk. i've never ran T4 because i can't find any good info supporting the need for it's use so i have no experience to fall back on for advice. if you are running clen and a t3/t4 mix, i don't see a need for any part of the ECA stack. other than that it all looks good though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    i would personally lower my clen doasge to around 100mcg daily and increase the T3/T4 dosage to 150-200mcg daily. you will have way more sides with the clen at a higher dose. using T3 is a cake walk. i've never ran T4 because i can't find any good info supporting the need for it's use so i have no experience to fall back on for advice. if you are running clen and a t3/t4 mix, i don't see a need for any part of the ECA stack. other than that it all looks good though.
    why would you want to run that high of a t3 dose off cycle, he'll burn through muscle, and just because you can't feel the t3 doesn't mean you should run high doses of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    i would personally lower my clen doasge to around 100mcg daily and increase the T3/T4 dosage to 150-200mcg daily. you will have way more sides with the clen at a higher dose. using T3 is a cake walk. i've never ran T4 because i can't find any good info supporting the need for it's use so i have no experience to fall back on for advice. if you are running clen and a t3/t4 mix, i don't see a need for any part of the ECA stack. other than that it all looks good though.
    I am not sure how much Clen I will be using per day. I will test my tolerance levels by building up the dose gradually, but I will not exceed 160mcg per day.

    I'm estimating that 120mcg per day will probably be the highest dose I would need.

    I probably will stick with the T3/T4 dosage I have now since I'm am only consuming ~2500 Cal a day; I don't wan't to start burning muscle.

    I have not run a bulking cycle ever before.

    CFH, did you run Clen/T3 after a cycle?? On a cycle?? Just looking to put your experince into context.

    Thanks for the info, I appreciate it greatly.
    Last edited by Mauler_25; 02-08-2009 at 11:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    why would you want to run that high of a t3 dose off cycle, he'll burn through muscle, and just because you can't feel the t3 doesn't mean you should run high doses of it
    Phate:
    Good info, I definately don't want to be burning through muscle.

    Would I want to run aspirin with this cycle as a blood thinner or will drinking the ~2 gallons of water per day accomplish the same goal?

    Thanks for your input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauler_25 View Post
    Phate:
    Good info, I definately don't want to be burning through muscle.

    Would I want to run aspirin with this cycle as a blood thinner or will drinking the ~2 gallons of water per day accomplish the same goal?

    Thanks for your input.
    you won't need the aspirin IMO, and you don't need 2 gallons of water, 1 gallon is more than enough unless you are sweating a ton

    just be careful with the t3 as it doesn't discriminate between burning muscle and fat, personally i don't use it, i have some right now but i ran it for a couple weeks and didn't like it, though i love clen even though i don't feel it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    you won't need the aspirin IMO, and you don't need 2 gallons of water, 1 gallon is more than enough unless you are sweating a ton

    just be careful with the t3 as it doesn't discriminate between burning muscle and fat, personally i don't use it, i have some right now but i ran it for a couple weeks and didn't like it, though i love clen even though i don't feel it
    Will do on the gallon of water. Thanks.

    Also, this is the first time I've used clen . I took my first dose today at 40 mcg but didn't feel any sides except I had sweaty palms (don't know if that was a side or just a coincidence). I'm going to up my dose to 80 mcg tomorrow, but if I still don't feel anything would you think that my clen is bunk??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauler_25 View Post
    Will do on the gallon of water. Thanks.

    Also, this is the first time I've used clen. I took my first dose today at 40 mcg but didn't feel any sides except I had sweaty palms (don't know if that was a side or just a coincidence). I'm going to up my dose to 80 mcg tomorrow, but if I still don't feel anything would you think that my clen is bunk??
    could be or you could be like me and just not feel the sides, only real way to check is source check or to check temp before starting the clen and during

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