My 3rd cycle- Testosterones and Deca. Plz comment

[G_THANG]

Hey guys,

I'm currently in the process of putting together a cycle for myself here, my previous cycles were made up with info gathered from this site and they worked quite well so im back again and posting my cycle for you your feedback..

Consists of:-
- 10mL Testosterone Propionate 100mg/mL
- 14mL Sustanon 250mg/mL
- 10mL Deca 300mg/mL
- 12mL Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/mL

Week 1-2- 100mg Testosterone Propionate every second day (4 x 100mg)
Week 2- 200mg Testosterone Propionate every second day (3 x 200mg)
Week 3-
1mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 4-
1mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 5-
1mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 6-
2mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 7-
2mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
2mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 8-
2mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
2mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 9-
2mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 10-
1mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 11-
1mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)
Week 12-
1mL Sus 250mg (Monday)
1mL Deca 300mg (Wednesday)
1mL Test Enanthate 250mg (Friday)

2 weeks after last shot of Test Enanthate 20mg Nolvadex (Tamixofen) per day for 3weeks as PCT.

Please comment on this cycle guys, you can be as rude as you like if you think my cycle is ridiculous, just a lil help to point me in the right direction, i would really like to get some feedback! Thanks for your time!

[Matt]

Stats
age
bf
weight
height
diet
previous cycles
training history..

[G_THANG]

Sorry i forgot all that info didnt i..
Ok im 26yrs old, 65kgs (approx 142lbs), 5'6..
My first cycle just consisted of 250mgs per week of Test Enanthate , for 12 weeks, weeks 5-8 were my peak weeks and i was hitting 500mgs per week. I gained approx 8kgs(15lbs approx). I kept a bit over half of that. This was approx. 2yrs ago.
My second cycle last year consisted of 100x10mg dianabol tabs, 12mLs sus250 and 12mL deca 100mg/mL. Unfortunately the dianabol tabs did not work as well for me as it does for others so i plan not to go there again.
I have been training on and off for 2 years now. However the past 8 months have been a lot more consistant and i usually get 6 hours of training a week over 5days/week.
I usually eat fruit and/or muesli with yoghurt in the mornings, tunas or chicken for midday, and pastas every 3rd night for dinner, steak/meats every other night. Very unorganised diet as you can see.

[Matt]

Imo your diet is your problem, change that and i feel you could gain more. As for your cycle, imo its not good neither is your pct lol...

[G_THANG]

What should my PCT look like if u dont mind?

[Matt]

I would at least put clomid in there aswell.

[G_THANG]

100mg/day chlomid + 20mg/day nolvadex first week
50mg/day chlomid + 20mg/day nolvadex weeks 2-3 of PCT
do u think this is a suitable PCT? I've never used chlomid and from what i read, higher dosage are required for a good PCT, also is 3 weeks worth long enough or should i extend?

[ottomaddox]

Is that all you have or can you get more? That cycle is so flawed for many reasons that you should of known about by doing more research.

[G_THANG]

Okkkk. Here goes, i've come up with a new plan! lol

Week 1 and 2- 100mg Test Prop. every 2nd day
Week 3-12- 300mg Deca per week. (Wednesdays)
Week 3-15- 250mg Test Sus. per week. (Mondays)
Week 3-15- 250mg Test Enanthate per week (Fridays)
Week 19- 150mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex / day
Week 20- 100mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex/day
Week 21- 50mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex/day
Week 22- 50mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex/day.

So.. plz tell me im gettin somewhere with this!... help??

[daem]

Remind me again why you want to run sust + enanthate , and only hit the sust 1 x week?

Is the sust leftover gear you're trying to use?

I just don't like the way you are proposing to run this...

[G_THANG]

it is gear that i actually have all stacked up for this cycle.. i just thought it would be better to use a variety of testosterones and not just rely on the enanthate ??
all in all, i have 14mls of sus250, 10mls of deca300 and the 20mls of test enanthate250. using 10mls of test prop to kick start my cycle...

[G_THANG]

ok, question..
can the sus 250 and enanthate be hit on the same day.. if so.. would it be a better idea to hit the testosterones twice a week.. hence 1/2ml sus250 + 1ml test enanthate250(monday), then deca300mg(wednesday), then again 1/2ml sus250 + 1ml test enanthate250 (friday).. run this for 14 weeks(750mgs testosterone in total per week), but the last two weeks jab only 1ml of the test enanthate250 + the sus250 (500mgs total per week) on the monday for those 2 weeks to wease off it?..

[T-MOS]

it is gear that i actually have all stacked up for this cycle.. i just thought it would be better to use a variety of testosterones and not just rely on the enanthate ??
all in all, i have 14mls of sus250, 10mls of deca300 and the 20mls of test enanthate250. using 10mls of test prop to kick start my cycle...

WOW, you are so far off, sorry to say. TEST IS TEST, you do not get any benefits from running multi esters except you have to inject EOD, so if you like to do shots ED or EOD, then fine, but your whole cycle is terrible IMHO

Why would you not start PCT until 4 weeks after ?????

[T-MOS]

Okkkk. Here goes, i've come up with a new plan! lol

Week 1 and 2- 100mg Test Prop. every 2nd day
Week 3-12- 300mg Deca per week. (Wednesdays)
Week 3-15- 250mg Test Sus. per week. (Mondays)
Week 3-15- 250mg Test Enanthate per week (Fridays)
Week 19- 150mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex / day
Week 20- 100mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex/day
Week 21- 50mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex/day
Week 22- 50mg chlomid + 20mg nolvadex/day.

So.. plz tell me im gettin somewhere with this!... help??

Why not:

Week 1-2 Test Prop 50mgs ED ( you would do better with 4 weeks instead of two)
Weeks 1-13 Deca 300 mgs/week ( I would break this into Two shots/week)
Weeks 1-15 Test E 500mgs/week shot every 3.5 days, NOT once a week

PCT starts 14 days after last test E inject

Save the sust for another cycle as you need to shot it EOD NOT once a week

[G_THANG]

ok.. thanks for the info.. it seems like im going to take the sus out of the equation and just hit the test enanthate twice a week at 250mgs each time and run that for a period of 12weeks. 10 weeks for the deca300. and start my PCT 2 weeks after my last test enanthate injection.
In your opinion does my PCT at least make sense to you?

[T-MOS]

ok.. thanks for the info.. it seems like im going to take the sus out of the equation and just hit the test enanthate twice a week at 250mgs each time and run that for a period of 12weeks. 10 weeks for the deca300. and start my PCT 2 weeks after my last test enanthate injection.
In your opinion does my PCT at least make sense to you?

PCT doesn't look bad, I would have extra on hand to run longer and maybe add HCG and arimidex to have throughout cycle, but not necessary

First week with clomid doesn't need to be that high the whole week. some people do one or two days of a higher dose like 150 or more, then cut back from there. up to you

[G_THANG]

Ur a champion, thank you all for your info.. you guys are great, very helpful..
Will keep you all posted on results! Keep up the good work guys!

[alextg]

Run hcg in your pct and arimidex throughout the cycle to counter the estrogen probs.T-MOS's cycle looks good ... test prop for kickstart till enanthate start workin ... Leave sus for an other cycle.Hope you have nice gains AND check your diet ... your body weight is very very low for a pesron that has done previous cycle/cycles.Im around 5'7 and weight around 195-200 ... Diet and eating alot is very important to see nice results