First injections.............How hard is it?

**GottaGetIt** · 03-01-2009, 06:29 PM

I'm new to this too and I am needle phobic.
I was using the same needle to draw and
inject (22ga 1 1/2) and like someone above
stated would be sore 48 hours later for about
48 hours.
I started switching to a 25ga 1 1/2 after drawing
and have had no soreness whatsoever. Use
proper sterile methods, pull the skin tight and
just press the needle against your skin with
firm pressure (you can jab it if you like

)
the new needle is sharp enough that it punctures
the skin and you gently guide it as deep as
you need to then hold firm yet gentle pressure
on the plunger. Pretty easy after the first time.

**THORSZ** · 03-01-2009, 06:35 PM

First time took me a while and i got sweaty. Now it is no big deal.

**NATE0406** · 03-01-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Bro STFU, tell me how you get an infection from using the same needle for pinning as you do for drawing if the rubber stop is sterilized?
You don't, so please don't say things that aren't true

Dude do you have reading comprehension problems or something? How did you even pass high school?

I said I use the same needle I draw with to pin with, I never said I reuse needles you dumbass. The issue is sharpness nothing else.

Seriously, learn to read next time

Lucky from what? Jesus you guys sometimes don't use your brain.

Does a doctor change needles when you go in for a shot? No, he draws with the same needle and pins you with the same needle (thats how its taught in medical school) there is no added risk of increased infection or whatever bs you guys are spewing out if the area is already sterile.

bro read all the post before you start running your mouth. i said that i thought he was talking about reusing needles. thats why i corrected myself before you started shooting off you mouth.

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-01-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by NATE0406

bro read all the post before you start running your mouth. i said that i thought he was talking about reusing needles. thats why i corrected myself before you started shooting off you mouth.

Bro what are you talking about? I am talking about this:

Originally Posted by NATE0406

you are just asking for an infection. that is bad advice bro.

Obviously you don't know the difference between good or bad advice if you think not switching needles when you draw and inject "is asking for an infection". In medical school the procedure of injection includes using the same needle you draw with to inject with, so obviously as long as the rubber stopper is sterilized with alcohol pad then you g2g.

Don't call someone out if you are not prepared to get called out yourself.

**breakbones** · 03-01-2009, 08:58 PM

If people dont want to inject, they shouldn't mess with AAS

**NATE0406** · 03-02-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Bro what are you talking about? I am talking about this:

Obviously you don't know the difference between good or bad advice if you think not switching needles when you draw and inject "is asking for an infection". In medical school the procedure of injection includes using the same needle you draw with to inject with, so obviously as long as the rubber stopper is sterilized with alcohol pad then you g2g.

Don't call someone out if you are not prepared to get called out yourself.

LOL. bro come on. i posted that comment. then one or two post later i corrected myself and said that i thought you where talking about resusing needles. get a grip bro.

**pharm-muscle** · 03-02-2009, 01:23 PM

My Wife is a second year med student and i am a clinical pharmacist. If you are drawing up in a steril environment...ie laminar air flow hood, using the needle you drew up with is fine...however...doing it in your kitchen with bacteria and dust floating around is not proper aseptic technique....and you do run a further risk of infection...but were talking a 2 fold increase when the initial risk is in the area of 0.01%. So, do I do it? no I was taught differently and jcaho guidlines will say to change needles if not in a sterile field...their reasonng is it is OK to have the liquid exposed to the air momentarily becuase it has the BA in it....but is it a legit risk...not really...now if we were talking IV..id say your crazy not to change

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-02-2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by pharm-muscle

My Wife is a second year med student and i am a clinical pharmacist. If you are drawing up in a steril environment...ie laminar air flow hood, using the needle you drew up with is fine...however...doing it in your kitchen with bacteria and dust floating around is not proper aseptic technique....and you do run a further risk of infection...but were talking a 2 fold increase when the initial risk is in the area of 0.01%. So, do I do it? no I was taught differently and jcaho guidlines will say to change needles if not in a sterile field...their reasonng is it is OK to have the liquid exposed to the air momentarily becuase it has the BA in it....but is it a legit risk...not really...now if we were talking IV..id say your crazy not to change

Why would we be talking about IV? ha

I doubt there are any heroin users here.

**mcx** · 03-02-2009, 06:02 PM

Just got everything today. Some crazy 18 gauge deals, and a shit load of 23 gauge. Im assuming ill want to use the 23's! Anyways, thanks guys. With the amount of blood ive had to have drawn lately im used to it practically.

**pharm-muscle** · 03-02-2009, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Why would we be talking about IV? ha

I doubt there are any heroin users here.

What you dont use heroin before you workout...get the best pumps!!! because I dropped a 130lb Db on my face

**Chance_Baby** · 03-02-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by pharm-muscle

What you dont use heroin before you workout...get the best pumps!!! because I dropped a 130lb Db on my face

...your meaning to tell me that people don't use heroin before work outs? some people are just weird..

**Chance_Baby** · 03-02-2009, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by pharm-muscle

What you dont use heroin before you workout...get the best pumps!!! because I dropped a 130lb Db on my face

...your meaning to tell me that people don't use heroin before work outs? some people are just weird..

**bcbrett** · 03-02-2009, 09:49 PM

I just did my first jab and i must say its all mental. it took me about 30 minutes to do it and yes i almost pulled the chute. But once you do it there's nothing really to it. I used 22guage 1.5 long to inject test 400. After the injection it felt a little tender like a minor charley horse so i jumped on the treadmill for 10 minutes at a fast paced walk and now feel perfectly fine. Also i stuck the vial under my arm to heat to body temp before injecting and made sure everything was clean.

**Chance_Baby** · 03-02-2009, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by bcbrett

I just did my first jab and i must say its all mental. it took me about 30 minutes to do it and yes i almost pulled the chute. But once you do it there's nothing really to it. I used 22guage 1.5 long to inject test 400. After the injection it felt a little tender like a minor charley horse so i jumped on the treadmill for 10 minutes at a fast paced walk and now feel perfectly fine. Also i stuck the vial under my arm to heat to body temp before injecting and made sure everything was clean.

yep! where did you inject?

**tlbully** · 03-07-2009, 03:37 PM

i am needle phobic also (nickname as a child was "stitches")
my wife did all of my injections until this cycle. sitting on the floor with the pin in hand, i convinced myself that it wasn't the needle that was my problem. it was thinking of what i am putting in my body. and since this is my 1st "homebrew tren " cycle, it took a few minutes to psyc myself up.