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  1. 03-14-2009, 07:39 PM #1
    rksdmf
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    Test E and Winnie 50 mg/ tabs cycle....Help Please!

    Hello,

    I am currently on week 3 of a Test E cycle with starting Winnie this week.

    I am already seeing gains in strength and size....

    This is what I have had planned for this cycle....

    Weeks 1-2.......250mg Test Enth 250/wk

    Weeks 3-5.......500mg Test Enth 250, 50 mg/ED Winstrol Tab/wk

    Weeks 6-7.......250mg Test Enth 250, 50 mg/ED Winstrol Tab/wk

    Here are my questions......

    Should I run this cycle longer?

    What should I use as pct? clomid or novidex, and how much for how long? When should I start taking the pct?

    How long after this cycle (as is or longer if advised) should i wait to start a new cycle?

    And any other Input you may have....

    Much Thanks!
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  2. 03-14-2009, 07:42 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by rksdmf View Post
    Hello,

    I am currently on week 3 of a Test E cycle with starting Winnie this week.

    I am already seeing gains in strength and size....

    This is what I have had planned for this cycle....

    Weeks 1-2.......250mg Qv Test Enth 250/wk

    Weeks 3-5.......500mg Qv Test Enth 250, 50 mg/ED British Dragon Winstrol Tab/wk

    Weeks 6-7.......250mg Qv Test Enth 250, 50 mg/ED British Dragon Winstrol Tab/wk

    Here are my questions......

    Should I run this cycle longer?
    i'm not sure you should be running it at all with the brand you are using(edit it out btw) and your lack of knowledge in creating a cycle(no need to pyramid), not flaming just stating
    What should I use as pct? clomid or novidex, and how much for how long? When should I start taking the pct?
    first we need to see if you should be actually doing this cycle, stats please
    How long after this cycle (as is or longer if advised) should i wait to start a new cycle?
    a good gauge is time on+pct=time off, but bloodwork is the best way
    And any other Input you may have....

    Much Thanks!
    stats please
    age
    weight
    height
    bf%
    training exp
    cycle exp
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  3. 03-14-2009, 07:44 PM #3
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    Welcome.
    Please don't post lab names.
    Test e needs to be run for at least 10 weeks.
    What is your planned pct???
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
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  4. 03-14-2009, 07:48 PM #4
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    why are you pyramiding the dose on the test.
    cycle is to short.
    personally wouldnt use either one of those brands. but thats me.
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  5. 03-14-2009, 11:08 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Welcome.
    Please don't post lab names.
    Test e needs to be run for at least 10 weeks.
    What is your planned pct???
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    Sorry for the rookie mistakes.....

    Thanks for your help. I have been doing research and was wondering which pct to take, either clomid or novidex? Your input will be helpful. As far as the test I was wondering how long to take it, I have pyramid deca before with good results, but didnt use a pct (bad move, i know).

    I am 27 years old, about 5'11, 180 lbs, Not sure about body fat....

    I have a great diet, have been training in a very physically demanding martial art for 10 years and I have been weight training for over 6 years, but have been doing one day on one day off for nearly 1 year now.


    should i use the winstrol through to the end of the cycle?

    as much input you can give is appreciated....
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  6. 03-14-2009, 11:12 PM #6
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    how about test 1-12
    winny 9-14

    keep doses constant.
    jump right on pct.
    id use both clomid and nolvadex
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  7. 03-14-2009, 11:42 PM #7
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    ok and how long should i wait til i start another cycle after the pct? and is there a good cycle you could recommend for an athlete, after this one.....

    I will now plan to take 500 mg/ week for 14 weeks, since i allready started the winstrol i will stay on it all the way through....
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  8. 03-14-2009, 11:45 PM #8
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    time on time off..
    or get bloodwork done and make sure everything is in check before starting.
    i follow the time on / time off rule and get blood work done.
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  9. 03-14-2009, 11:58 PM #9
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    Thanks Mammon......

    Any further advise on PCT cycle?
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  10. 03-15-2009, 12:02 AM #10
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    pct id use both clomid and nolvadex ..
    pct starts 2 weeks after enanthate .
    i run 100mg clomid and 20mg nolvadex for 30 days
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  11. 03-15-2009, 12:06 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    i run 100mg clomid and 20mg nolvadex for 30 days
    Thats "each day" right?
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    yes.. i take it at night before bed
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  13. 03-15-2009, 12:08 AM #13
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    thanks a lot mammon, ur a big help......pardon the pun

    any advice on next cycle after this one?
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    that would depend on your goals. id look at adding a little something.. figure out what you might want to run and we can go from there.
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