1st cycle help

**biggrisbetr** · 03-17-2009, 04:04 AM

in a few wks im going to start sust.-250 only.2 times per week(500mg) my quest. im worried for getting gyno i have nolvadex on hand (10mg tab 20 ) is this enough or do i need more.been lifting a little over 2yrs im 5'8" 172 13% b/f.the guy im getting it from he said that small of dose per wk. i wouldnt need at all but i want to lean on the side of caution and as far as pct i got clomid 50 mg tabs if any1 can help me out i would b very apperciative

**rhino1** · 03-17-2009, 04:24 AM

That should be fine but imo you could make much more progress with more calories and consistant working out...

Your not ready for aas just yet...

How old are you?

Also...you should opt with test c or e....not sust(for your first cycle)

**biggrisbetr** · 03-17-2009, 04:28 AM

i am 30 i lift 4 dys per wk. cardio 2dys per wk 1 day off

**biggrisbetr** · 03-17-2009, 04:29 AM

and why test dont u have to inject more x's per wk/or is better gains for 1st timer?

**rhino1** · 03-17-2009, 04:32 AM

the only reason i say that is because you have only been lifting 2 years and your diet is suspect...no offense

Age wise and bf% are fine...it may just be a waste of money if your diet isn't right....and sust is a little harder to use as apposed to Test e or c....

If you decide to proceed anyways Id use Test E/C 500mg/wk x 12-14 wks and increase your calorie intake alot with alot of beef, fish, and chicken and whole carbs...

**rhino1** · 03-17-2009, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by biggrisbetr

and why test dont u have to inject more x's per wk/or is better gains for 1st timer?

Sust is test....just with multiple esthers

test e/c only injected every 4th day...basically 2x/wk

You could even do 1 x per week if you wanted but you wouldn't have stable plasma levels

**Mammon** · 03-17-2009, 04:40 AM

id get more nolvadex if you only have 20 10mg tabs.. want enough on hand if you need it during the cycle and for pct.. id run it with the clomid. 20 tabs isnt enough for either

**rhino1** · 03-17-2009, 04:43 AM

Dude...just run test e 500mg/wk x 14 wks with nolva and clomid pct...AND FOR HEAVENS SAKE

EAT!

**biggrisbetr** · 03-17-2009, 03:43 PM

sorry to ask so many quest. the test enanthate -250 comes in 10ml/250mg multidose vials how many would i need,and u were saying sust. is harder to use,correct me if im wrong but dont u inject e3d it sounds like either way u inject 2x's per.wk right? as fa r as my diet i range from 2800-3000 cal. 170-180g. pro,300-350g. carb,and 40-55g. of fat and as far as pct i have 50mg/50 clomid o/hand w the test would 20/10mg nolva. suffice or should i go w/40 10mg tabs and i would only start the nolva. in the cycle if gyno signs appear. like i said sorry for so many quest. i just want 2 know b4 i go sticking myself w/stuff,i want to b fairly educated if any1 would help id b very appericative thanks for reading and hoplfully helping.1 more thing w/either the sust. or the test-e 500mg/per wk. is the gyno problem really that big of an issue or am i making something out of nothing.thanks once again 4 all replies.