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    2nd Cycle... What do you think?

    Gonna be starting my 2nd Cycle soon, was thinking:

    Weeks 1-5

    2 x 300mg Deca pw

    2 x 300mg Nomaviron (prop 50, enth, 250) pw

    Weeks 5-10

    2 x Test Prop 200mg pw

    2 x Tri Tren 150 (50 ace, 50 enth, 50 hexa) pw

    PCT

    1st day after last shot 150mg Clomid
    2nd day after last shot 100mg Clomid
    3rd day after last shot 50mg Clomid

    Days 1-18 50mg Clomid

    Day 5, 10, 15 after last shot HGC

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    no good...

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    ouch. I don't like any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    no good...
    Why?

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    well where to start... lets see...

    5 weeks of deca , about worthless..

    then.... the switch....

    prop needs to be injected ed/eod not twice a week.
    hate the tren blend, but to take advantage of the acetate that would have to be injected ed/eod as well..

    then we come to the pct..
    pct would not start the next day
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    there is more too... lol

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    it would take me longer to tell you everything wrong with it than it would take you to do a few minutes research and propose a decent cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    Gonna be starting my 2nd Cycle soon, was thinking:

    Weeks 1-5

    2 x 300mg Deca pw

    2 x 300mg Nomaviron (prop 50, enth, 250) pw

    Weeks 5-10

    2 x Test Prop 200mg pw

    2 x Tri Tren 150 (50 ace, 50 enth, 50 hexa) pw

    PCT

    1st day after last shot 150mg Clomid
    2nd day after last shot 100mg Clomid
    3rd day after last shot 50mg Clomid

    Days 1-18 50mg Clomid

    Day 5, 10, 15 after last shot HGC

    Tren and Deca in the same cycle? For the 2nd??

    Terrible idea, most wait to add tren in 3-4th cycle.

    What are your stats?

    Age?
    Weight?
    Height?
    Bf%?

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    deca for 5 weeks it takes bout 4 wks to properly kick in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    Tren and Deca in the same cycle? For the 2nd??

    Terrible idea, most wait to add tren in 3-4th cycle.

    What are your stats?

    Age?
    Weight?
    Height?
    Bf%?
    26
    15st
    6"2
    11%

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    How should i change it arount then??

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    think you should do the work and try again.. then let us take a look..

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    Like i said, im looking for advice, if i was sure i wouldnt have asked and just done it

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    Like i said, im looking for advice, if i was sure i wouldnt have asked and just done it
    I gave you some advice. Everything you need to know is here, do a little research, read some stickies, and propose a cycle and pct. No one here will spoon feed you.

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    That is the only gear i have and im struggling to put it into a cycle

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    how much of everything do you have.1 vial?.
    looks like a little bit of everything and not enough of anything..

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    ok that makes more sense, I was trying to figure out why someone would write such a cycle. you probably just don't have enough gear to build even a so-so cycle in my opinion, personally if I can't do something right I just won't do it. tell us exactly how much of each compound you have and the concentrations and we'll see if anything can come out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    ok that makes more sense, I was trying to figure out why someone would write such a cycle. you probably just don't have enough gear to build even a so-so cycle in my opinion, personally if I can't do something right I just won't do it. tell us exactly how much of each compound you have and the concentrations and we'll see if anything can come out of it.
    Thankyou...

    I Have

    1 x 10ml Amp of Tri tren Blend (50 ace, 50 enth, 50 hexa per ml)
    1 x 10ml Amp of Deca (300mg / ML)
    1 x 10ml Amp of Test Blend (nomaviron) (prop 50, enth, 250 per ml)

    10 x 2ml Amp Testolic

    3 x HCG

    24 x 50mg clomid

    I could probably get more if required, i like the idea of tren for good lean bulk, not kean on ed/eod shooting.. 3 x per week max
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    Thankyou...

    I Have

    1 x 10ml Amp of Tri tren Blend
    1 x 10ml Amp of Deca (300mg / ML)
    1 x 10ml Amp of Test Blend

    10 x 2ml Amp Testolic

    3 x HCG

    24 x 50mg clomid

    I could probably get more if required, i like the idea of tren for good lean bulk, not kean on ed/eod shooting.. 3 x per week max
    dude EOD = 4 injects each week, if you're fine with 3, then just suck it up and add the sunday injection!

    IMO you either need more deca or tren... 10 - 15mL more

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    dude EOD = 4 injects each week, if you're fine with 3, then just suck it up and add the sunday injection!

    IMO you either need more deca or tren... 10 - 15mL more
    Yeah i suppose 4 would be ok.... think id prefer tren ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    Yeah i suppose 4 would be ok.... think id prefer tren...
    alright... well I dunno most people would save the tren . most do not run it for a 2nd cycle... but if you feel you're ready to handle those sides then whaaatever.. good luck. lol... hopefully you don't get insomnia too badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    alright... well I dunno most people would save the tren. most do not run it for a 2nd cycle... but if you feel you're ready to handle those sides then whaaatever.. good luck. lol... hopefully you don't get insomnia too badly.
    Ha, I work nights and have a baby so sleep is not common anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie8582 View Post
    Ha, I work nights and have a baby so sleep is not common anyway!
    haha fair enough.

    alright, well good luck buddy. keep us updated.

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    How should i structure the cycle then with the gear i have?

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    you could squeak by with the test, but with the deca and tren there isn't really enough of each to be worth it, and they aren't really interchangeable. In other words you couldn't just run the deca for 5 weeks then switch to the tren and have it pick up where the deca left off, it doesn't work that way. deca should be run for at least 10 weeks, and 400mg/week is a good starting dose. the test needs to run longer than the deca, which ester test determines how much longer the test needs to run. double check to see if you can get more gear, I think you would be happier with the results if you did.

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    totally agree

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    I can probably get more tren but would be the blend stuff..

    I know there are different advantages to deca and tren, dont fancie the bloat of deca like the idea of lean, hard tren..

    How about if i run:

    4 x 1ml Tri Tren p/w for 10 weeks?

    2 x 300mg Nomaviron p/w for 12 weeks?

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    help me out please big

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    ok big... its all you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    ok big... its all you..
    lol

    help off you would be appreciated too??

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    bump... please

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    I can probably get more tren but would be the blend stuff..

    I know there are different advantages to deca and tren, dont fancie the bloat of deca like the idea of lean, hard tren..

    How about if i run:

    4 x 1ml Tri Tren p/w for 10 weeks?

    2 x 300mg Nomaviron p/w for 12 weeks?

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    i dont like the tren blends.. sure its both long and short esters..
    really dont think you should be running tren on the 2nd run anyway.. especially with long esters.
    id just run the test.. if you can get more deca maybe that as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    i dont like the tren blends.. sure its both long and short esters..
    really dont think you should be running tren on the 2nd run anyway.. especially with long esters.
    id just run the test.. if you can get more deca maybe that as well
    I ran test and deca on my first cycle, held quite u bit of water and felt bloated...

    plus i already have the tren and can get hold of more... ??

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    Help me out please guys!!

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    can run an AI during the cycle to keep the wayer off. diet plays a role as well..
    still wouldnt run the tren this early on...

    Fuk it... what esters is the blend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    can run an AI during the cycle to keep the wayer off. diet plays a role as well..
    still wouldnt run the tren this early on...

    Fuk it... what esters is the blend?
    Tri Tren 150 (50mg ace, 50mg enth, 50mg hexa) its a 10ml vile. Im presuming this is per ml??

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    bump

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    guess that tren blend 3-10 eod
    test 1-12 twice a week

    pct 2 weeks after last test inj.. 100mg clomid 20mg nolvadex ed for 30 days..

    best i can do with it.. with the acetate in the tren blend id rather start it once the test has began to reach peak blood levels.. even tho the test does have 50mg prop wont be doing much at twice a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    guess that tren blend 3-10 eod
    test 1-12 twice a week

    pct 2 weeks after last test inj.. 100mg clomid 20mg nolvadex ed for 30 days..

    best i can do with it.. with the acetate in the tren blend id rather start it once the test has began to reach peak blood levels.. even tho the test does have 50mg prop wont be doing much at twice a week.

    I have struggled bad to get hold of the nolvadex... i do have some hcg though??

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