First Cutting Cycle

[Gaspari1255]

I'll start off by saying that I am 22 two years old. 6'3", 240lbs, 14.5% bf. I have almost three years training expierence. I understand diet is the biggest factor in any cycle, diet is on point. I have kept almost all gains on my last two cycles with good PCT and dieting.

Previous cylces:

1.) Week 1-10: Test E 500mg

2.) Weeks 1-12: Test E 700mg
Weeks 1-10: Deca 600mg
Weeks 1-5: Dianabol 60mg

Proposed Cycle:

Weeks 1-12: Test Cyp 300mg
Weeks 1-10: Tren A 75mg/ED
Weeks 6-12: Winstrol 60mg ED

PCT: No (TRT- 200mg Cyp)

any thoughts?

[Gaspari1255]

bump

[lord henry]

22 and on trt -wow

i would use test prop over test c in your cycle .

weeks 1-10 100mgs test p ed

weeks 1-8 75-100mgs tren a ed

weeks 4-10 -50mgs winny ed

[WARMachine]

Looks ok to me.

Id run Prop if i were going to have to pin Tren A ED anyway.

Other than that, party on!

Might wanna get the bf% down as much as possible beforehand. Tren is a hell of a drug!

[Mammon]

if using the long ester test id start the tren week 3.. let the test start to reach peak blood levels before adding the tren

[WARMachine]

22 and on trt -wow

i would use test prop over test c in your cycle .

weeks 1-10 100mgs test p ed (Why would he need to take 700mgs PW? Thats ridiculous. If you need more than 600mgs PW to gain, your diet or training is off, or youve done 8+ cycles.)

weeks 1-8 75-100mgs tren a ed (again for a first time user,50-75mgs ED. 100mgs of Tren ED for a first timer is senseless. )

weeks 4-10 -50mgs winny ed (Best to run the winny until the day before PCT, or in this case, the day before he decides to stop the cycle. )

Sorry bro, didnt agree with your advice at all.

[WARMachine]

if using the long ester test id start the tren week 3.. let the test start to reach peak blood levels before adding the tren

Thats a really good point bro!

Nice!

[Gaspari1255]

Looks ok to me.

Id run Prop if i were going to have to pin Tren A ED anyway.

Other than that, party on!

Might wanna get the bf% down as much as possible beforehand. Tren is a hell of a drug!

Thanks for the advice. Is it cool to run the prop for 12 weeks then hop back on my TRT cyp dose afterwards?

[WARMachine]

I dont see why it wouldnt be.

Youre on TRT for a reason right?

Do you actually have low test, or do you just have some sort of arangement?

[Gaspari1255]

yep on TRT for a damn good reason, lol. I fvcked myself up pretty bad with that second cycle, followed a good PCT, and levels were still horrible. Much happier with my TRT and a sex drive that works. Thanks for the advice brotha.

[lord henry]

Sorry bro, didnt agree with your advice at all.

no probs bud ,we ll have our thoughts .

[Gaspari1255]

Also, will the Winny make that much of a difference or it's not nessecerey?

[musclehead1983]

Hey ******-
I'm running a similar cycle right now minus the winny. I am using test prop and tren a. You are gonna LOVE the tren. It makes you feel like a monster. I hear the train coming brotha!

[Whoisdaman]

Also, will the Winny make that much of a difference or it's not nessecerey?

It's a personal opinion, but I wouldn't run the winny:

1) for the cost (winny ain't cheap)
2) the fact that you will get perfect results from just prop and tren (being that it's your first go-around)
3) the impact of tren on your hairline is bad enough... I could hardly stand the combo with winny
4) joint pain on winny kills me

I'd choose not to run winny in the tren/prop combo mostly for reason 2... you will see 90% of all results from the tren and will shadow basically any other additional compound you run.

[WARMachine]

Also, will the Winny make that much of a difference or it's not nessecerey?

Id run it. Winny has always been cheap for most people to buy as far as i know(above poster). It'll dry you up. Strength isnt bad either, though you will be doing Tren as well so thats not much of an issue obviously.

Its really up to you, if you got it already, why not. If you havent, maybe save the money.

[musclehead1983]

The train is coming ******. TOOT TOOT! hahaha Believe me the tren and prop mix will be enough in my opinion. whoisdaman is right about winny and joint pain. The winny joint pain is a mother fu***r. Start the cycle without the winny and for some reason you feel the need to run the winny at week 6 go ahead, but I really believe your not going to want to.

[Gaspari1255]

Thanx for the help guys...and yes the train is coming soon!