what can i take to stop roid rage?

[DS21]

^^^ best answer in this whole thread!!!

self control !! you need to manage your aggression. We all have it , and yes it can increase on cycle, so you need to be man enough to acknowledge it and manage it or stay away from the steroids!1

Exactly what I was trying to get across in my first post.

I think for everyone saying there is no such thing as roid rage , is just crazy talk. You may want to word it differently, but your aggresion will increase, and that is what people consider roid rage, right? Personally, I like to use small amount of certain compounds (Tren ) so I can controll any excess aggresion. But I agree with everyone, if you have anger issues, then stay away from steroids, or keep the amounts low.

[Immortal Soldier]

Did you just say testosterone is not intended for humans?

The more you type in this thread , the less knowledge you show.

No, i didn't say testosterone is not intended for humans. You said testosterone is intended for humans and I replied testosterone is intended for most of the animal kingdom. Testosterone is used in humans, canines, bulls, racing hounds, horses, etc no where did I say testosterone is not intended from humans. Testosterone when first created was taken from the testes of bulls. I then replied that tren is not originally intended for humans, but for cattle. Remember when you said "testosterone is intended for humans" after you quoted a post where I said tren is not intended for humans, thats why I was confused because I never said it wasn't.

[BIG_TRUCK]

No, i didn't say testosterone is not intended for humans. You said testosterone is intended for humans and I replied testosterone is intended for most of the animal kingdom. Testosterone is used in humans, canines, bulls, racing hounds, horses, etc no where did I say testosterone is not intended from humans. Testosterone when first created was taken from the testes of mice. I then replied that tren is not originally intended for humans, but for cattle. Remember when you said "testosterone is intended for humans" after you quoted a post where I said tren is not intended for humans, thats why I was confused because I never said it wasn't.

Ok gotcha.

[hankdiesel]

I get moree aggresive in the gym, but I've never flipppped out on my wife or anything. Even while on tren I'm able to keep it together. Maybe the poster is just an a-hole who is mentally unstable. Maybe some valium would calm your crazy butt down.

[LATS60]

No, i didn't say testosterone is not intended for humans. You said testosterone is intended for humans and I replied testosterone is intended for most of the animal kingdom. Testosterone is used in humans, canines, bulls, racing hounds, horses, etc. Testosterone when first created was taken from the testes of mice. I then replied that tren is not originally intended for humans, but for cattle. Remember when you said "testosterone is intended for humans" after you quoted a post where I said tren is not intended for humans.

Mice, you could at least get you're facts right,

History
Performance enhancing substances have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine by societies around the world, with the aim of promoting vitality and strength. In particular, the use of steroid hormones pre-dates their identification and isolation: medical use of testicle extract began in the late 19th century while its effects on strength were still being studied. In 1889, the 72-year-old British neurologist Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard injected himself with an extract of dog and guinea pig testicles, and reported at a scientific meeting that these injections had led to a variety of beneficial effects.
The development of modern pharmaceutical anabolic steroids can be traced back to 1931 when Adolf Butenandt, a chemist in Marburg, purified 15 milligrams of the male hormone androstenone from tens of thousands of litres of urine. This hormone was synthesized in 1934 by Leopold Ruzicka, a chemist in Zurich. It was already known that the testes contained a more powerful androgen than androstenone, and three groups of scientists, funded by competing pharmaceutical companies in the Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland, raced to isolate it.
This testicular hormone was first identified by Karoly Gyula David, E. Dingemanse, J. Freud and Ernst Laqueur in a May 1935 paper "On Crystalline Male Hormone from Testicles (Testosterone)." They named the hormone testosterone, from the stems of testicle and sterol, and the suffix of ketone. The chemical synthesis of testosterone was achieved in August that year, when Butenandt and G. Hanisch published a paper describing "A Method for Preparing Testosterone from Cholesterol." Only a week later, the third group, Ruzicka and A. Wettstein, announced a patent application in a paper "On the Artificial Preparation of the Testicular Hormone Testosterone (Androsten-3-one-17-ol)." Ruzicka and Butenandt were offered the 1939 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for their work, but the Nazi government forced Butenandt to decline the honor.
Clinical trials on humans, involving either oral doses of methyl testosterone or injections of testosterone propionate , began as early as 1937. Testosterone propionate is mentioned in a letter to the editor of Strength and Health magazine in 1938; this is the earliest known reference to an anabolic steroid in a U.S. weightlifting or bodybuilding magazine.
During the Second World War, German scientists synthesized other anabolic steroids , and experimented on concentration camp inmates and prisoners of war in an attempt to treat chronic wasting. They also experimented on German soldiers, hoping to increase their aggression. Adolf Hitler himself, according to his physician, was injected with testosterone derivatives to treat various ailments. The development of muscle-building properties of testosterone was pursued in the 1940s, in the Soviet Union and in Eastern Bloc countries such as East Germany, where steroid programs were used to enhance the performance of Olympic and other amateur weight lifters. In response to the success of Russian weightlifters, the U.S. Olympic Team physician Dr. John Ziegler worked with synthetic chemists to develop an anabolic steroid for American weightlifters, resulting in the production of methandrostenolone (Dianabol ). Dianabol, developed by Ciba Pharmaceuticals, was approved for use in the U.S. by the Food and Drug Administration in 1958. Dianabol had the same strength building properties as testosterone, but with reduced side effects.
From the 1950s until the 1980s, there were doubts that anabolic steroids produced anything more than a placebo effect. In a 1972 study, participants were informed they would receive injections of anabolic steroids on a daily basis, but instead had actually been given a placebo. They reportedly could not tell the difference, and the perceived performance enhancement was similar to that of subjects taking the real anabolic compounds. According to Geraline Lin, a researcher for the National Institute on Drug Abuse, these results remained unchallenged for 18 years, even though the study used inconsistent controls and insignificant doses. In a 2001 study, the effects of high doses of anabolic steroids were examined, by injecting variable doses (up to 600 mg/week) of testosterone enanthate into muscle tissue for 20 weeks. The results showed a clear increase in muscle mass and decrease in fat mass associated with the testosterone doses.

[Immortal Soldier]

During the later part of of the 1930's and throughout the second World War, nations of the Axis and Allied Powers sought to enhance the endurance and alertness of their armies through the use of amphetamines. Stimulants allowed soldiers to function minimial rest, endure reduced rations, long marches, or provide maximal performance during combat. ...The use of anabolic steroids to create a more powerful warrior began in Nazi Germany. It is alleged in an attempt to enhance the endurance, strength, aggressiveness of his elite troops, Adolf Hitler ordered the use of testosterone. It is further alleged that Hitler administered testosterone to himself. In a move similar to Hitler's. Josef Stalin also allegedly ordered the use of stimulants and anabolic steroids for Soviet troops.

Handbook of Drug Interactions By Ashraf Mozayani


Also remember this was a time when anabolic steroids had just started taking off, so information on its effectiveness/interactions was limited, they viewed as a way to make a "super soldiers" who were much more powerful than regular soldiers in all aspects and weren't afraid of death.

[BIG_TRUCK]

During the later part of of the 1930's and throughout the second World War, nations of the Axis and Allied Powers sought to enhance the endurance and alertness of their armies through the use of amphetamines. Stimulants allowed soldiers to function minimial rest, endure reduced rations, long marches, or provide maximal performance during combat. ...The use of anabolic steroids to create a more powerful warrior began in Nazi Germany. It is alleged in an attempt to enhance the endurance, strength, aggressiveness of his elite troops, Adolf Hitler ordered the use of testosterone. It is further alleged that Hitler administered testosterone to himself. In a move similar to Hitler's. Josef Stalin also allegedly ordered the use of stimulants and anabolic steroids for Soviet troops.

Handbook of Drug Interactions By Ashraf Mozayani


Also remember this was a time when anabolic steroids had just started taking off, so information on its effectiveness/interactions was limited, they viewed as a way to make a "super soldiers" who were much more powerful than regular soldiers in all aspects and weren't afraid of death.

You said it doesn't increase aggressiveness.

Then you post exactly what I said in this thread about nazi's using it for aggression?

[LATS60]

During the later part of of the 1930's and throughout the second World War, nations of the Axis and Allied Powers sought to enhance the endurance and alertness of their armies through the use of amphetamines. Stimulants allowed soldiers to function minimial rest, endure reduced rations, long marches, or provide maximal performance during combat. ...The use of anabolic steroids to create a more powerful warrior began in Nazi Germany. It is alleged in an attempt to enhance the endurance, strength, aggressiveness of his elite troops, Adolf Hitler ordered the use of testosterone. It is further alleged that Hitler administered testosterone to himself. In a move similar to Hitler's. Josef Stalin also allegedly ordered the use of stimulants and anabolic steroids for Soviet troops.

Handbook of Drug Interactions By Ashraf Mozayani


Also remember this was a time when anabolic steroids had just started taking off, so information on its effectiveness/interactions was limited, they viewed as a way to make a "super soldiers" who were much more powerful than regular soldiers in all aspects and weren't afraid of death.

WTF has that got to do with mice and my article predates you'res so i haven't got a clue why you posted it.

[Immortal Soldier]

Mice, you could at least get you're facts right,

History
Performance enhancing substances have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine by societies around the world, with the aim of promoting vitality and strength. In particular, the use of steroid hormones pre-dates their identification and isolation: medical use of testicle extract began in the late 19th century while its effects on strength were still being studied. In 1889, the 72-year-old British neurologist Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard injected himself with an extract of dog and guinea pig testicles, and reported at a scientific meeting that these injections had led to a variety of beneficial effects.
The development of modern pharmaceutical anabolic steroids can be traced back to 1931 when Adolf Butenandt, a chemist in Marburg, purified 15 milligrams of the male hormone androstenone from tens of thousands of litres of urine. This hormone was synthesized in 1934 by Leopold Ruzicka, a chemist in Zurich. It was already known that the testes contained a more powerful androgen than androstenone, and three groups of scientists, funded by competing pharmaceutical companies in the Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland, raced to isolate it.
This testicular hormone was first identified by Karoly Gyula David, E. Dingemanse, J. Freud and Ernst Laqueur in a May 1935 paper "On Crystalline Male Hormone from Testicles (Testosterone)." They named the hormone testosterone, from the stems of testicle and sterol, and the suffix of ketone. The chemical synthesis of testosterone was achieved in August that year, when Butenandt and G. Hanisch published a paper describing "A Method for Preparing Testosterone from Cholesterol." Only a week later, the third group, Ruzicka and A. Wettstein, announced a patent application in a paper "On the Artificial Preparation of the Testicular Hormone Testosterone (Androsten-3-one-17-ol)." Ruzicka and Butenandt were offered the 1939 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for their work, but the Nazi government forced Butenandt to decline the honor.
Clinical trials on humans, involving either oral doses of methyl testosterone or injections of testosterone propionate , began as early as 1937. Testosterone propionate is mentioned in a letter to the editor of Strength and Health magazine in 1938; this is the earliest known reference to an anabolic steroid in a U.S. weightlifting or bodybuilding magazine.
During the Second World War, German scientists synthesized other anabolic steroids , and experimented on concentration camp inmates and prisoners of war in an attempt to treat chronic wasting. They also experimented on German soldiers, hoping to increase their aggression. Adolf Hitler himself, according to his physician, was injected with testosterone derivatives to treat various ailments. The development of muscle-building properties of testosterone was pursued in the 1940s, in the Soviet Union and in Eastern Bloc countries such as East Germany, where steroid programs were used to enhance the performance of Olympic and other amateur weight lifters. In response to the success of Russian weightlifters, the U.S. Olympic Team physician Dr. John Ziegler worked with synthetic chemists to develop an anabolic steroid for American weightlifters, resulting in the production of methandrostenolone (Dianabol ). Dianabol, developed by Ciba Pharmaceuticals, was approved for use in the U.S. by the Food and Drug Administration in 1958. Dianabol had the same strength building properties as testosterone, but with reduced side effects.
From the 1950s until the 1980s, there were doubts that anabolic steroids produced anything more than a placebo effect. In a 1972 study, participants were informed they would receive injections of anabolic steroids on a daily basis, but instead had actually been given a placebo. They reportedly could not tell the difference, and the perceived performance enhancement was similar to that of subjects taking the real anabolic compounds. According to Geraline Lin, a researcher for the National Institute on Drug Abuse, these results remained unchallenged for 18 years, even though the study used inconsistent controls and insignificant doses. In a 2001 study, the effects of high doses of anabolic steroids were examined, by injecting variable doses (up to 600 mg/week) of testosterone enanthate into muscle tissue for 20 weeks. The results showed a clear increase in muscle mass and decrease in fat mass associated with the testosterone doses.

You are correct about when it was "synthezied", but before that it was extracted from mice and bulls.

PURPOSE: We explore the history of testosterone in the context of medical and scientific developments. MATERIALS AND METHODS: A review of the scientific and historical literature was conducted. RESULTS: The origins and effects of testosterone have been recognized throughout the history of humankind. Hunter performed testicular transplantation experiments in 1767 while studying tissue transplantation techniques, and almost a century later Berthold linked the physiological and behavioral changes of castration to a substance secreted by the testes. Brown-Séquard gave birth to the field of organotherapy in 1889 when he announced that his auto-injection of testicular extracts resulted in rejuvenated physical and mental abilities. Steinach and Niehans expanded upon Brown-Séquard's work with rejuvenation treatments involving vasoligation, tissue grafts and cellular injections. In 1935 David et al isolated the critical ingredient in organotherapeutic treatments, testosterone. CONCLUSIONS: The effects of the powerful hormone testosterone continue to inspire research and controversy 65 years later.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11176375

[Immortal Soldier]

You said it doesn't increase aggressiveness.

Then you post exactly what I said in this thread about nazi's using it for aggression?

The post was clarification on what Jiggman said about it originally being used for.

The Nazi's believed it would increase aggressiveness based off the work that was done on testosterone prior to that.

A German physiologist in 1849 did experiments in which he took four roosters, removed the testes in two of them and transplanted those testes into the abdominal cavity of the other two roosters. The two castrated roosters grew fat and lazy (a sign very consistent with loss of testosterone). The two that were grafted with testicles remained every inch a rooster. They crowed, they battled, they chased hens enthusiastically, and their bright red combs kept on growing. The comb of the cocks is actually a sexual organ.


http://www.medrehab.com/Description_Testosterone.php

As for me saying that it doesn't increase aggressiveness, I believe it doesn't at moderate dosage. If you want me to admit I was wrong about that part, then I will.

WTF has that got to do with mice and my article predates you'res so i haven't got a clue why you posted it.

I posted this before i noticed you agrument, chill out.

[daniel_3855]

sounds like you're all full of bs then lol. I don't think it makes you aggressive. media myth

think the only 1 full of bs is you.... my uncle is a body builder even now at 55 he still on roids, from the age of 18 and he warned me that it will make me aggresive and he was 100% right it did and everyone knew it did...

roids do make you aggressive end of story....

to my 1st question i will give the kalmms ago.

[BIG_TRUCK]

think the only 1 full of bs is you.... my uncle is a body builder even now at 55 he still on roids, from the age of 18 and he warned me that it will make me aggresive and he was 100% right it did and everyone knew it did...

roids do make you aggressive end of story....

to my 1st question i will give the kalmms ago.

You still haven't posted ur stats?

[NS]

[daniel_3855]

You still haven't posted ur stats?

look at my other post were it says 10 weeks winny to much stats are on there and still waiting for some input on that?....

[NS]

[Immortal Soldier]

History
Performance enhancing substances have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine by societies around the world, with the aim of promoting vitality and strength. In particular, the use of steroid hormones pre-dates their identification and isolation: medical use of testicle extract began in the late 19th century while its effects on strength were still being studied. In 1889, the 72-year-old British neurologist Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard injected himself with an extract of dog and guinea pig testicles, and reported at a scientific meeting that these injections had led to a variety of beneficial effects.

Even in your own source you use as your argument, agrees with my statement. I said testosterone was first taken from testes of animals, first meaning in the beginning. You said I was wrong and pointed out when it was first "synthesized" ie. meaning the first time the hormone was made in a pharmacuetical hormonal version.

[hellapimpin]

a dose of Maturity

[Norway2]

i know its in the HOS.. it was a long time ago..

PLEASE link it man..

As for the threadstarter I would try some GABA, to calm down a little bit.

[Dizz28]

This thread went to hell in the couple hours I was gone....

I see Immortal is arguing with people again, anything new?

[Immortal Soldier]

This thread went to hell in the couple hours I was gone....

I see Immortal is arguing with people again, anything new?

I don't know what that's supposed i hardly argue with people (besides you that it is)

Also it was a debate not really an argument

[Dizz28]

I don't know what that's supposed i hardly argue with people (besides you that it is)

Also it was a debate not really an argument

it's easy to disagree with people and argue when you don't know what you're talking about. Dude, I've gone through some of your posts... you might want to sit back and just let other people give advice

I enjoy reading these made up statistics and lab ranges you can seem to put out though... very entertaining

[Immortal Soldier]

it's easy to disagree with people and argue when you don't know what you're talking about. Dude, I've gone through some of your posts... you might want to sit back and just let other people give advice

I enjoy reading these made up statistics and lab ranges you can seem to put out though... very entertaining

Made up statistics and lab ranges? Those were actual people's bloodwork from various boards I frequent.

But ok, I guess you are right, I made them up, because I would rather give out bogus advice than give no advice at all.

[Dizz28]

But ok, I guess you are right, I made them up, because I would rather give out bogus advice than give no advice at all.

Already knew that, good to hear it from you though

[rhino1]

Valium, Xanax, Haldol, Zyprexa, Geodon....

Any benzo or antipsychotic will calm you down....

[Brown Ninja]

I'm getting roid rage just from reading this

[Dizz28]

Valium, Xanax, Haldol, Zyprexa, Geodon....

Any benzo or antipsychotic will calm you down....

Haldol? Damn man...

[rhino1]

Haldol? Damn man...

yep...you can rage if you cant stand up...

[garythompson]

no i guess i just haven't noticed it cuz my aggression is not a problem for me.

[Pittbull78]

Cyanide.

Could not have said it better!

[250a1ok]

Roid rage is in the head,, But if you feel you need to calm down, try a morning w**k,
If this does not work, pop to the pharmacy and get some calms tabs,,

At the end of the day it is your head, as you know your on a cycle, keep looking at your gains and be happy.

[wackod2]

dose of common sense? its fake

[SmokenDBOY]

DUDES<<MY RAGE cant be mimiced you $%^& i take all you $%^ $%^#$ outside,inside where ever the $%^& ugly of a fa#$% points me to and ripp that smerk right off your aas. i mean ass..and that normal with no nothing ever.so dont cALL ME FAT.

[countrybhoy]

im not really experinced enough to argue one way or another . but this is my first cycle and if anything i am in better form that before . everyone is asking me what pills im on as they have noticed im in such a good mood .

[LATS60]

You are correct about when it was "synthezied", but before that it was extracted from mice and bulls.

PURPOSE: We explore the history of testosterone in the context of medical and scientific developments. MATERIALS AND METHODS: A review of the scientific and historical literature was conducted. RESULTS: The origins and effects of testosterone have been recognized throughout the history of humankind. Hunter performed testicular transplantation experiments in 1767 while studying tissue transplantation techniques, and almost a century later Berthold linked the physiological and behavioral changes of castration to a substance secreted by the testes. Brown-Séquard gave birth to the field of organotherapy in 1889 when he announced that his auto-injection of testicular extracts resulted in rejuvenated physical and mental abilities. Steinach and Niehans expanded upon Brown-Séquard's work with rejuvenation treatments involving vasoligation, tissue grafts and cellular injections. In 1935 David et al isolated the critical ingredient in organotherapeutic treatments, testosterone. CONCLUSIONS: The effects of the powerful hormone testosterone continue to inspire research and controversy 65 years later.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11176375

LOL, mice, synthesised, read the article, DOG and GUINEA PIG pre synthesised.

But i give up with you, as i said earlier you are either pedantic, simple, or both.

Ignore list, is the best i can do so i don't have to read anymore of you're rubbish.

[Matt]

sounds like you're all full of bs then lol. I don't think it makes you aggressive. media myth

Twat..

[c-Z]

All I can say is WOW... at all this...... But any how... I've read all over as it is a myth... And know several people who haved used aas and have never raged over it...

[Schmidty]

i cant controll my rage, i do a shot and explode w anger and i hunt down my mom, grandma or gf to punch them in the belly or if im on a big cycle im gona kick my dog to. once i punched a kid at the gym for getting in my way just cause i took a HUGE DOSE OF CELL TECH before i hit the gym

[countrybhoy]

your at the wind up aint you m8 .

[gatorfan]

nazis also used amphetamines alot of them

[JiGGaMaN]

Valium, Xanax, Haldol, Zyprexa, Geodon....

Any benzo or antipsychotic will calm you down....

my friend and i both disagree with benzos calming you down. if anything they make you more confrontational and less logical = bad choice. the monkey that tore that woman apart was on xanax. that being said, i got my ass handed to me on xanax one day, it was embarassing.