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    Heating syringe method

    Friend from gym told me that he heats his syringes by putting it close to an electric heater fan for a few seconds before he injects.

    Should i tell him its wrong?

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    Heat is heat, as long as it's done safely and works. IMO the best method is to just run the syringe under hot water for a 30 seconds or so. Does the trick perfectly. I heat until the air bubble (which I purge prior to pinning) flows nice and freely up and down as I tilt the syringe back and forth (like a level). Lets you know its nice, warm and thinned out... bam!!

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    I have just been putting the ampule under my arm while I set everything up. Should I be heating it up after the oil is in the syringe?

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    Heating your gear to prevent injection pain is the biggest crock of sh it....most of the pain is several hours later from the gear itself...not the actual injection...

    Whoever thinks that makeing the temperature equal to that of their body in effort to lesson the injection pain shouldn't use aas in the first place...

    I have used prop that was smooth as butter going in and crippleing the next day...o no...if i only warmed it...lol

    On the contrary i've used prop that hurt like a bitch going in and nothing the next days...I guess those were the days that i warmed it...

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    Just shoot the stuff. All this stuff i've been hearing about heating juice and virgin muscle pain is getting really old. If you can't take a little sting from time to time you're not ready. And that's not to say you will. I've never heated a damn thing and i've never experienced any virgin muscle pain. As a matter of fact, i prefer a new site cause it's like butter.

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    Rhino1, the whole point of warming is to make it less viscous and easier to spread out in the muscle tissue so there's not just a concentration of prop in one area. It does help reduce the pain

    This is common sence, and you don't have to be a smart ass about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    Rhino1, the whole point of warming is to make it less viscous and easier to spread out in the muscle tissue so there's not just a concentration of prop in one area. It does help reduce the pain

    This is common sence, and you don't have to be a smart ass about it
    I think its more commmon SENSE....to know how to spell SENSE...or is it SENCE as you put it....

    What do you think your body does when it goes in?

    It doesn't just sit there....your so f.o.s.

    And if im a smart ass then what does that make you? A dumb ass?
    Last edited by rhino1; 04-03-2009 at 06:11 AM.

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    tried it both ways, heated it first few shots I did, then said fukk it and didn't heat it, absolutely no difference felt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post
    I have just been putting the ampule under my arm while I set everything up. Should I be heating it up after the oil is in the syringe?
    This is the correct way.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Heating your gear to prevent injection pain is the biggest crock of sh it....most of the pain is several hours later from the gear itself...not the actual injection...

    Whoever thinks that makeing the temperature equal to that of their body in effort to lesson the injection pain shouldn't use aas in the first place...

    I have used prop that was smooth as butter going in and crippleing the next day...o no...if i only warmed it...lol

    On the contrary i've used prop that hurt like a bitch going in and nothing the next days...I guess those were the days that i warmed it...
    We warm the gear so it's less viscous, that way you don't have to use so much pressure, this causes less PIP because you aren't causing as much muscle trauma.
    Pretty much what Dizz said, it's obvious who is lacking in the common sense dept here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    This is the correct way.



    We warm the gear so it's less viscous, that way you don't have to use so much pressure, this causes less PIP because you aren't causing as much muscle trauma.
    Pretty much what Dizz said, it's obvious who is lacking in the common sense dept here.
    Agreed^^^^^^ heating is good.

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    I heat it sometimes to make the oil thinner.... seems to push through my 25g pins easier..

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    heating works for me to reduce pip pain ...................

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilliam View Post
    I heat it sometimes to make the oil thinner.... seems to push through my 25g pins easier..
    same reason i doit..... heating the gear 1st works.....

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    Wow.. Rhino, way to be a jerk. Sheesh. ya, no one is talking about the pain here. Less viscous is why we do it. Makes mine go in much faster and easier through a 25g pin, especially when you are pushing 3mls. Ease up there partner.

    And, to answer TigerShark's question - yes, I would heat it up in the syringe right before shooting. Gives it less chance to cool back down and THICKEN up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    I think its more commmon SENSE....to know how to spell SENSE...or is it SENCE as you put it....

    What do you think your body does when it goes in?

    It doesn't just sit there....your so f.o.s.

    And if im a smart ass then what does that make you? A dumb ass?
    When people resort to being sarcastic and then picking out a misspelled word... you know they've just lost the arguement and are just gunning for something to save face. Acting like a child will never win you an arguement even if you are right, it'll just make you look childish...

    That last line you wrote especially... I'd expect that from my 13yo cousin. That's on the same level as "I know you are but what am I!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexs View Post
    Friend from gym told me that he heats his syringes by putting it close to an electric heater fan for a few seconds before he injects.

    Should i tell him its wrong?
    you could use a hair dryer to i guess. I like warming up some water and soaking the loaded pin before injections. Makes oils flow smooth.

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    Thanks guys, i just thought the plastic or rubber stopper would melt a bit due to the heater.

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffefrijoles View Post
    IMO the best method is to just run the syringe under hot water for a 30 seconds or so. Does the trick perfectly. I heat until the air bubble (which I purge prior to pinning) flows nice and freely up and down as I tilt the syringe back and forth (like a level). Lets you know its nice, warm and thinned out... bam!!
    Just curious.. when you do this, does it matter if the water gets on the needle? Like, can you risk getting an infection from the minerals or other particles in the water? I might have just answered my own question when I said minerals but I don't know for sure...

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    im pretty sure he keeps the cap on the needle

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    Use a hair dryer and do not over heat. This will thin out the oil and allow for easier injection. A smaller needle can be used and this cuts down on pain and scar tissue!

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    hahaha..this is one crazy thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    Rhino1, the whole point of warming is to make it less viscous and easier to spread out in the muscle tissue so there's not just a concentration of prop in one area. It does help reduce the pain

    This is common sence, and you don't have to be a smart ass about it
    I would be interested to see some manufacturers recommendations regarding temperatures.

    You are injecting it into your muscles because you are trying to get sustained release of the hormone into your blood stream over time. By warming it and increasing viscosity, you are dispersing the drug through a larger than recommended area, and likely increasing the levels too rapidly, and then on the back end, shortening the duration of the release.

    Not only that, tap water is not sterile to the people using that method, be careful not to get it on your needle.

    As to the pain, I have given thousands of injections to hundreds of people, and there is little that can be accomplished outside of attempting to relax when receiving it.

    Also, if a sticky syringe is bothering you, you can "lubricate" the syringe by just taking out the new syringe and without anything in it, running it back and forth a few times rapidly. This will allow the gaskets to "warm up" and slide easier when you are pushing..

    Just in my experience here.

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    i also am a fan of heating up before injecting, it def helps a little, plus ever since i have started heating up the compound before injection i have not got the test flu

    Thanks guys, i just thought the plastic or rubber stopper would melt a bit due to the heater.
    you would need quite a bit of heat to melt the rubber stopper, a heat gun might do it, but i doubt a hair dryer will

    i sent a question to the lab that produces the gear i buy asking about heating the compound up regarding on how much heat it would take to potentially alter the compound or affect it in any way but i havent received a reply, does anybody know at what point could heating the compound be potentially damaging to the compound?

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    Yes, I keep the cap on when heating in the hot tap water. Jeez... this isn't rocket science people, should'nt be such a heated thred. Doesnt change the schlitt you're putting in you and as long as you do it correct and will not compromise sterility. Good night! To heat or not to heat... personal preference. Done. Please close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discipline_1 View Post
    i also am a fan of heating up before injecting, it def helps a little, plus ever since i have started heating up the compound before injection i have not got the test flu



    you would need quite a bit of heat to melt the rubber stopper, a heat gun might do it, but i doubt a hair dryer will

    i sent a question to the lab that produces the gear i buy asking about heating the compound up regarding on how much heat it would take to potentially alter the compound or affect it in any way but i havent received a reply, does anybody know at what point could heating the compound be potentially damaging to the compound?
    Boiling point maybe? Turns it to vapor.

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    No one said boiling... hot tap water. And the original poster was not talking about injection site pain or homone dispursement. Ok, we're getting carried away here. Pleeze close.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesman View Post
    I would be interested to see some manufacturers recommendations regarding temperatures.

    You are injecting it into your muscles because you are trying to get sustained release of the hormone into your blood stream over time. By warming it and increasing viscosity, you are dispersing the drug through a larger than recommended area, and likely increasing the levels too rapidly, and then on the back end, shortening the duration of the release.
    what in gods name are you talking about....

    Are you just making this stuff up?

    jeffefrijoles, the OP would have PM Big or Admin and request it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    what in gods name are you talking about....

    Are you just making this stuff up?

    jeffefrijoles, the OP would have PM Big or Admin and request it
    LMFAO, i was thinking the same thing LOL.

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    i heat up my shot under hot water for a min or so thins out the oil!

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    I just load the syringe and lay it on the bathroom counter while I'm having a hot shower. Half an hour later, the oil is thinner and my muscles are loose for injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    LMFAO, i was thinking the same thing LOL.
    Some of the things people come up with here... honestly

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    sterile oil or cutting with another drug is basically the only way to not yield pain..easy as that my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    Some of the things people come up with here... honestly
    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    LMFAO, i was thinking the same thing LOL.
    I came up with it after 4 years of a bachelors degree in nursing, and seven years medsurg/CVICU. Actually, I am inspired. I will be going in to my medical director's office in my hospital to suggest we start pre-warming our parenteral medications.. Right after I call up the manufacturer to do the same...Gosh, why didn't we come up with this stuff before?

    Quote Originally Posted by Discipline_1 View Post

    i sent a question to the lab that produces the gear i buy asking about heating the compound up regarding on how much heat it would take to potentially alter the compound or affect it in any way but i havent received a reply, does anybody know at what point could heating the compound be potentially damaging to the compound?
    You mean to tell us that you are wondering if altering the temperature has some effect on the efficacy of medications or the effect in the human body? Bah!

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    I didnt read EVERY reply but guys, I dont think it's safe to heat the syringe. It's plastic and if you accidentally over heat it you could release toxins into your juice. Heat the vial, it's much safer.

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    Try using a infra-red heat light in a table lamp. It works good to preheat the vial or the syringe and the injection site afterwards while messaging it.

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    Microwave for 5 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Microwave for 5 minutes
    Damn 5 minutes? Joking right? I just get a shot glass, put some tap water to the level of the gear, put shot glass in microwave for 18 seconds tops, take shot glass out and let the vial/amp sit in shot glass for a minute or two. Oil is now thin as water and so easy to draw and shoot. Just 18 seconds and the water is steaming hot. Cant imagine what 5 minutes would do.

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    yes a joke...i dont like to warm my gear...i like it viscous...im sadistic...colgate thick

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1 View Post
    Microwave for 5 minutes
    Ohh that's a good idea. Heck just put it in a fire for 20 minutes while you are at it.

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    Everyone should just send me their gear and I'll stick it between my crotch for a few days... that should do the trick! This thread took on a life of its own....

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