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04-07-2009, 08:00 AM #1
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I Need Advise, Im frustrated- Thinking of Doing First cycle.
Hello everyone.
Im 29yo, have been active in sports and work out freak for a couple of years.
I have been working out hardcore for the past 3 .
I am considering doing 1st cycle as I believe my Body will not grow, looks like it has reach a point where is unresponsive to exercise (growth) . I have tried other supplements but these dont seem to work. Im looking forwards to getting a better bod, bit bigger and cut.
Im 5'10 and 175lbs, I have been practicing Capoeira (brasilian martial art)for the las t 3 years and also play indoor and beach Volleyball. Im a very active individual in and out of the gym and I believe for all the hard work I do my body should be much better.
The only part of my bod im really proud off is my lower bod as I have very strong legs, mostly genetics as I dont work these out much, well besides cardio Anyways, I have strength to lift as I can do 220 bench press right now. But thats all there is just strength My pecs dont seen to grow anymore even when I push them to the max, I have try different methods, I rest my muscles and I have gotten good advise from PT but is a no no for me.
I really like to get some serious responses guys, Im very frustrated with myself Please those of you who have done it , please let me know if it would be right for me. I have read on side effects and Im willing to cope with those.
Im really looking to do just 1 cycle as Im never stepping away from the gym
I love to work out.
I know there are probably answers out there on the posts, but I couldn't find any.
I hope anyone can give me some good serious advise, please.
Im trying to start with the dose this week on Friday.
I dont know if Im allowed to ask for the name of whats out there, but if is ok to tell me then please do so, otherwise then dont get in trouble.
Thanks to all who read..
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04-07-2009, 08:05 AM #2
Welcome to AR
Here is your homework assignment. Read and understand this,and then let us know what you think
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742
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04-07-2009, 08:06 AM #3
Hey bro, most people are gonna wanna see your stats before any advice on gear is given. We allready have your age. We will need the following: Height, weight, training regime, diet, and be very specific with your diet. It's widely accepted that a Test only cycle should be your first. Either Test E or Test Cyp to see how your body responds to it. You could also throw some D-bol in there for the first couple of weeks. Do some research on PCT as well bro because you will need it so you can keep your gains and your body can get back to normal levels much more quickly. Peace
Satty
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04-07-2009, 08:53 AM #4
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My stats are as following:
29yo,
5'10
175-77 lbs.
I work out 5-6 days.
I do cardio almost every day. Wed-Thurs(some)- Sat (spinning-only do 2x a week-if I dont do spinning class I run 3 miles before I work out)
Mond-Wed Run 3 minles in 30 mins with incline bet 2-4
Tuesdays and Fridays I train capoeira for 2 hrs (very demanding exercises)
Some Mondays and Wed- Some Sundays I play Vball.
During Summer On sundays I play Beach Vball.
as for work out, I do chest one day, back another, 2 days I mix and match arms shoulders and legs. I do sit ups, abs almost every day I alternate between medicine ball, cable and abs machine and leg raise
I rest 2 days out of the week, sometimes only 1 day rest all depends how tired i Feel. I try to listen to my body .
I try to eat more or less healthy, I do not eat 5 or more a day..
maybe 3 or 4 times.
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04-07-2009, 09:54 AM #5
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So, you're telling us you don't eat enough, yet you do these 'very demanding exercises,' spinning classes, run, and play sports.
How do you think AAS are going to make you grow if you can't even handle eating enough?
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04-07-2009, 11:04 AM #6
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I eat.. I dont eat as much, But I do eat...Please understand Im not trying to get too big..
Just to get Cut.
Like I said Im not here to start a discussion , but to get advise from those who have done it before and have more knowledge. Im sure Im not alone .
Thnx
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04-07-2009, 11:57 AM #7
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Actually, this is what you said:
I believe my Body will not grow, looks like it has reach a point where is unresponsive to exercise (growth) . I have tried other supplements but these dont seem to work. Im looking forwards to getting a better bod, bit bigger and cut.
But, let me rephrase anyways: If your diet isn't on track, what do you think AAS are going to do for you?
I try to eat more or less healthy, I do not eat 5 or more a day..
maybe 3 or 4 times.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but is there a language barrier we might be having a problem with here?
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04-07-2009, 12:25 PM #8
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I do not think there is a language Barrier.I dont think u r understanding what Im looking for.
But thnx for your Input. Maybe a post by someone else can help me more.
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my opinion is that 3-4 meals a day is not going to help you achieve your goals.
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04-07-2009, 12:42 PM #10
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You aren't doing any exercises that will help you induce muscular hypertrophy (muscle growth). In fact, you do a lot of catabolic (muscle wasting) cardio. And you admit that you do not eat right or enough. You need to lift right, eat right, and sleep right for a while before you consider using AAS.
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04-07-2009, 12:46 PM #11
i think you need a proper diet, not AS, if you are frustrated with your body and how it's responding then that is almost always a diet related problem
post a thread in the diet forum with EVERYTHING you eat tomorrow or today and the amounts for critique
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04-07-2009, 01:42 PM #12
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I do not think there is a language Barrier.I dont think u r understanding what Im looking for.
But thnx for your Input. Maybe a post by someone else can help me more.
As it's has been said, head over to the Diet section of this forum. Lots of knowledgeable posters and valuable information.
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04-07-2009, 03:45 PM #13
What exactly is your goal . I see your stats now? . What do you want them to be .
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04-07-2009, 05:41 PM #14
The title of your post is need advice...Im frustrated. You are getting the best advice there is and its not what you want to hear so you ask for someone else to post...C'mon dude think about it, you have no knowledge of AS, most everyone here does. You have no idea how to eat right, everyone here does. You have no idea how to get the results and phisique you want yet almost everyone here does.....all that being said here is my advice......
LISTEN
Oh yeah....Welcome.
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04-08-2009, 10:16 AM #15
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Thanks for all the input Guys.
I reviewed the Diet Section when It was sent to me yesterday and I calculated my BMR and Im very close to the calories that should be consuming daily for my body type and workout regime. I eat around 2600 to 2800 calories a day, and the formula states my should be 2902.84.
Maybe I didnt explained correctly My main goal is cutting more instead of getting bigger.
for my height I can not surpass 185Lbs because Is going to be a big hit on my knees (Indoor Vball )
that being said.. I appreciated all the comments and posts. Im trying to eat an extra meal a day bring it to 5, maybe 6 (snack)..
That being said.. I been looking stuff up and researching..
I want to ask one more question....
Has anyone here done "Primobolan ", from what I have read this seems the right stuff for me. Or maybe Anavar , but I rather it be injectable than in oral form.
Thnx
Thnx again.
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04-08-2009, 10:53 AM #16
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To be honest... you're just lazy.
For your goals, you should learn to eat and train right. You want to lose weight and retain muscle? Learn about low intensity cardio (amount and timing), correct dieting (carbohydrate manipulation/timing, caloric threshold), macro nutrient breakdown, a few supplements, correct lifting, and SLEEP.
Those things will get you into the shape you want. You can't just do what you want to, or do what you do now and just expect to throw some (powerful/dangerous) chemicals into your body and get these dream results.
Knowledge and Will are what you need, get more of both.
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04-08-2009, 11:52 AM #17
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Ok I guess Im lazy then...... 'nough said...
Thnx to everyone no need to post any more replies....I appreciate u all taking time to read ..
is all been summarize by alpmaster....
would like to see any of u do what I do, and then I do what u do.. lets see who can take on the tasks...
I spoke to a trainer today and I got my answers.. ... shouldnt done that before I tried this site...
One more thing before I go..
You guys need to offer more advise instead of criticism, from all the post I only found the first one useful .
When people do a post is because they need help and most of u are just telling everyone u are doing this wrong, ur lazy u dont know how to do anything.. HOW DO U REALLY THINK THIS HELPS UR MEMBERS..
ONCE AGAIN THNX TO ALL....
FOR ANY NEW NEWBIES..IF U ARE ON THE RIGHT AGE RANGE 23-24+ AND U WANT TO REALLY DO IT
1- SPEAK TO UR DR
2- SPEAK TO A CERTIFIED PERSONAL TRAINER, MOST --- MOST HAVE DONE IT AND THEY WILL GIVE U GOOD ADVISE...
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04-08-2009, 12:09 PM #18
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Yes, the lazy comment was excessive. but I agree with the rest of alpmaster's post.
but post #9 was also helpful.
Dr's supervision? Paleease. Most senior members here know more about AS than most docs.
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04-08-2009, 12:17 PM #19
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04-08-2009, 12:21 PM #20
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You got rough treatment on here mate, totally flamed lol..
You said you were a beginner but everyone is expecting you to know everything...
Sorry i cant help bro im a newbie myself...
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04-08-2009, 12:23 PM #21
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All products claiming to be the closest thing,or legal steroids ,are just stealing your money,they have no address, you cannot pay by pay pal,all these products are fake,my sister works at a drug testing lab,what better person to me tell the truth.Most steroids are also fake,the only sure way of getting true steroids is to go to a country that will sell them from a chemist,other wise just train as hard as you can,learn take in knowledge.Change your routine about.do not trust doctor gym,like a drug dealer,he wants your money,that's it.
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04-08-2009, 12:25 PM #22
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No do not go on steroids ,do not go to an early grave,or prison
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04-08-2009, 12:38 PM #24
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Im just as confused.
Ok I guess Im lazy then...... 'nough said...
Thnx to everyone no need to post any more replies....I appreciate u all taking time to read ..
is all been summarize by alpmaster....
would like to see any of u do what I do, and then I do what u do.. lets see who can take on the tasks...
I spoke to a trainer today and I got my answers.. ... shouldnt done that before I tried this site...
One more thing before I go..
You guys need to offer more advise instead of criticism, from all the post I only found the first one useful .
When people do a post is because they need help and most of u are just telling everyone u are doing this wrong, ur lazy u dont know how to do anything.. HOW DO U REALLY THINK THIS HELPS UR MEMBERS..
ONCE AGAIN THNX TO ALL....
FOR ANY NEW NEWBIES..IF U ARE ON THE RIGHT AGE RANGE 23-24+ AND U WANT TO REALLY DO IT
1- SPEAK TO UR DR
2- SPEAK TO A CERTIFIED PERSONAL TRAINER, MOST --- MOST HAVE DONE IT AND THEY WILL GIVE U GOOD ADVISE...
I also agree that many members here know more about AAS than most Doctors.
There are also only a few trainers in the nation I would take AAS advice from.
You came onto here looking for an easy road that isn't there. Poor punctuation and grammar made your post hard to read. I'd say if you want respect, give some respect to the knowledgeable members who have to read your post and have offered you help.
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04-08-2009, 12:43 PM #25
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I told you everything you need to do to make the results you want. You wanted us to say "inject 200mg of this every day, and watch your body transform!".
You came in here wanting to be told what you wanted to hear, and you didn't get that. Do the research yourself, ask for help when needed, and get the sand out your vag (...not a volleyball pun).
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04-08-2009, 04:57 PM #26
does anybody hate this man? simply ignorant, naive, no imagination and creativity and like said before lazy, what a slug......
'hey buddy what you wanna do is, stop eating, no need to work out 6 times a week and cardio everyday like u do, inject 5g test e, every week intraoccular into your eyeball and you will look like a greek god in 10 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
Fook sake, THESRE IS - no magic formula, no magic pill, JUST HARD WORK, DAMMMMMMMMMMMM, what a lazy minded fool!!!!
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04-08-2009, 05:01 PM #27my opinion is that 3-4 meals a day is not going to help you achieve your goals.
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04-08-2009, 05:22 PM #28
I was the same way with my body a year ago. I believed i couldn't get any bigger. then i learned...(didn't do any AS)
the problem is you DO NOT BELIEVE you might not be doing things right. Oh and for the record anytime someone says they are "in and out of the gym" means they dont workout properly. You need a program, and you should know EXACTLY how much you go to the gym.
1) If you spent 10 mins searching on here you would learn that you cannot get big and cut at the same time. You have to eat enough to grow, then you can control your diet to lose excess fat.
2) You have to chill with the cardio, it is good for your heart yes, but if you want to "grow" you need to hit the weights first, then cardio differently. Are marathoners big!?
IMO opinion you are far from being ready for AS. I still haven't done them yet b/c i have not achieved my personal goals.
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08-17-2009, 12:26 PM #29
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hey so how did all that HARDCORE working out doo?
was the GROWTH worth it?
keep us updated
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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