oral cycle advice

**orbitz21** · 05-14-2009, 05:51 PM

Hey i'm 31 yrs old 5'9 210lbs. I'm new to this site and need some good advice on a good oral cycle. I'm looking to keep my weight, give or take a few lbs but get much leaner. Can anyone help me with a good beginner clycle plan and post cycle.

**busaboy27** · 05-14-2009, 05:53 PM

test only.. its not oral though...... cant do cycle without it... well actually u shouldn't

**busaboy27** · 05-14-2009, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by puggle1

Not another "ORAL ONLY CYCLE"...you want a good first cycle...TEST E 500mgs wk for 12wks....PCT Novaldex 40mgs wk1.....20mgs wk2-6

how about 10 weeks and pct for 4.

and only nolva pct? is that what your suggesting?

**The Deuce** · 05-14-2009, 06:04 PM

Hey don't bash the guy for wanting to do an Oral only cycle. Yes it isn't the optimum thing to do.. but there are possibilities out there.

First off... STATS !!

SECONDLY... educate before you medicate. It sounds to me that you need to do more research before you go putting compounds into your body.

If you are 5'9" 210lbs and 13% BF then I would say yah man you are probably somewhere in the realm ready for a cycle.. but if you are 5'9" 20% BF then I would say NO hit the diet forum and lose some Fat. That's why we need like in depth stats ya know??

Also... Oral only cycles .. well they aren't the BEST and there are only a few orals you can run by themselves and achieve worth while results.. TBOL and Anavar are really the only two you should do alone.

A Testosterone cycle sounds like it would be the best for you if your stats say so... Don't be scared of needles... they are your friend. Doing a 12 week or 14 week Test E or C 500mgs EW cycle will yield ultimate results for u for a FIRST CYCLE.

If it's the needle that is keeping you away from it.. get over the phobia.. it's just a needle dude... it's not a death sentence... and the power within that needle is far more profound then chewing up some tabs... C'mon ur a MAN... Man up !!

We are here to help you.. thats what we do. But first off... before any cycle that you may want to do... START LEARNING ALL YOU CAN ABOUT IT!! Steroids are not a joke and should not be taken lightly. Oh and Welcome !!

Oh and learn all you can about PCT ... That is a must know if you are ever going to use Steroids .

**Ernst** · 05-14-2009, 06:05 PM

Get much leaner? What's your bf% like?

**orbitz21** · 05-14-2009, 06:17 PM

thanks for the responses. I'm around 17% BF. I'm trying really to get leaner and cutup. I hear anavar is good for what i'm looking for but can i just use that alone then nolva for PCT? Or should i try the test e? if so is that alone?

**The Deuce** · 05-14-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by orbitz21

thanks for the responses. I'm around 17% BF. I'm trying really to get leaner and cutup. I hear anavar is good for what i'm looking for but can i just use that alone then nolva for PCT? Or should i try the test e? if so is that alone?

Anavar would be a good oral only cycle... 100mgs ED for 6 weeks. Pct - Nolva- 40mgs ED for 4 weeks would be sufficient if you want to go the Oral only route for your first cycle. Might as well... you would see GREAT QUALITY LEAN GAINS from this. It would be recommended that you run a TRT dose of at least 100mgs EW of Injectable Testosterone but you dont have to.

If you want to go the inject route... 500mgs of Test E shot twice per week.. monday morning and thursday night ... 1 ml per shot... depending if the test is dosed at 250mgs/ml. The first 4 injections should be "double dosed" for a frontload kickstart... so 2 ml's for the first 4 injections. Pct- for this would be a Nolva/Clomid combo at minimum for 6 weeks 40mgs ED of Nolva and 150mgs ED of clomid should suffice but to cover every angle... get some aromasin and do 25mgs ED for 4 weeks. Have an AI like Arimidex on hand if you experience gyno on cycle... it's not necessary but nice to have... and make sure you have EVERYTHING !! Before you do your first shot!! Good luck and come to us with whatever questions you may have!!