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    HELP! Over 1 month on Test E and nothing.

    I've been injecting Test E since April 5th on a weekly basis, 500mg each week, diet has been superb and so has training. I've done one cycle before with just Test Cyp and had great results doing the same thing but this time I was going to stack the test e with winstrol , i tried the winstrol once and knew it wasnt for me, i could not deal with the injection pain, it scared the shit outa me too. So now I started at 205 and i'm still the exact same 205 even after all the shit ive been doing over the last month. The first bottle I got was from a company called Stratos, anybody heard of that, now I'm using this brand called Sciroxx which seems pretty legit but still no results... I've been told i'm not getting any results because I'm not stacking it with anything and I totally understand that, I'm looking into deca now as a stack but I am still a little surprised i've seen hardly any gains, not even a few pounds off of the test e alone... Idk if shits underdosed or total bullshit but I just needed to throw this up and see what some of you guys thought... Please hit this shit up...

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    test e usually takes 4/5/6 weeks to kick in, give it another week or so then start measuring again. its not an instant blow up! Plus you dont NEED to stack Test E, most beginners do a test only cycle at first and they are reporting awesome gains. these things take time so dont jump the gun and say its not working after only 4 weeks, its only just starting to work around this time!

    As for winny, its only worth doing with low bodyfat imho! Post up some stats and let the pros have a look!

    As for the manufacturers of ur test, i havent heard of either of them but i am no where near as experianced as some of the guys on here!

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    Even though it takes 5 weeks for test E to peak you still should be seeing an increase in weight by now, how long did you have off cycle before you started this one? I wouldnt stack it with deca because if you have fake Test E and you stack it with deca, you will be on a deca only cycle which can cause issues.

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    i came off my last cycle the end of november 08... i read all about the not doing deca if its fake cuz it really shuts down shit and u need that test but i still am unsure if its fake or not. as for the deca, its going to be the same brand as the test being sciroxx from the same dealer, i really do trust this guy because i know others who have gotten from him and its worked but i'm just in an unsure state of mind. ill post stats as soon as i get everything exact...

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    yea it coudl be either,, but your like what 6 wks in? You should be feelin it,, whats your sex drive like? Seems like more and more fake and underdosed gear is floating around these days

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    actually my sex drive has been fine, a little increase when i first started injecting but it could of all been psychological, its still diff then how i felt when i was injecting test cyp a while back...my balls havent even gotten too small yet...

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    You could go to a doctor and get your test levels checked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Even though it takes 5 weeks for test E to peak you still should be seeing an increase in weight by now, how long did you have off cycle before you started this one? I wouldnt stack it with deca because if you have fake Test E and you stack it with deca, you will be on a deca only cycle which can cause issues.
    Yup - you should begin to see / feel results by week 5. I have done test e by itself before and had good results at the exact same dosage you are running.
    Could be the your source / the gear is fake or underdosed, which just sucks. Give it another week but if nothing at the end of week 6 I would seriously consider quitting and having PCT matls on hand. If you have no shutdown issues, then the gear is probably fake. Definitely DO NOT run deca with this gear until you are sure its real.

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    Well first of all you dont need to stack Test to see results.

    When i take a new brand of test that ive never seen before, I dont go by weight gain to see if its real. Weight gain is gonna be your diet, and since im always big to begin with and usually only cycle before summer to cut, that wouldnt tell me nothing.

    The thing i usually look for is the fact that around week 5, i start getting horny as hell. and usually whack off 3 times a day besides what my girls could do for me.

    This method works for me, but everybody is different.

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    i say its fake

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    what i'm thinking is the first bottle i had was either really underdosed or fake and the stuff i'm doing now is legit. i mean i feel like i'm on, attitude wise and just a few other things about the way i feel. i know how it is and i am just hoping its not psychological and i'm going nuts... Guess i'm just going to see how it pans out the next 2 weeks or so.

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    well obviously ur diet isnt where it is supposed to be. there is no way if it was that u wouldnt have gained any weight at all. so even if the gear is bunk ur not taking in enough calories

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    trust me i'm eating enough, even better and higher quality calories than when i was getting great gains on just test cyp months back.

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    It may be fake. I was in the same boat as you and found out I had been screwed.

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    thats why i do pharma grade only

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    I'm kinda in the same boat right now, week 10 of 10 actually. I'm a little confused because i've only put on about 10lbs.... but on the flipside i've gotten a lot stronger (295-345 on bench). I was watching my diet because I didn't want to put on like 30 lbs or anything, but I thought i'de be more than 10 though...

    Other than breaking out once, I really haven't experienced any sides as far as sex drive or anything. I've added 4 weeks of winny to the end as well. If it wasn't for my strength increase I would have said it was fake, but I do think it's underdosed or something.

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    i hear that, i dont know i def think its legit, maybe underdosed but the sciroxx bottle ive been on has to be real, ive been moody and irritated as all hell and its def contributed to the way i feel about the whole situation, i really want to find out officially what the deal is with this shit... if anybody here has time check out the sciroxx stuff, it looks pretty legit...

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    bum gear

    I only hear negative things about your gear...ck out this link for more info...


    http://www.forbodybuilders.net/?p=34

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    You should be noticing strength gains if real after 4 weeks . 500mg over 4 weeks you should feel something . I would stop if any chance of being fake . Your body is a temple , Don't paint it with lead paint .

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    Your gear is fake.

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    idk this link gave good info but still seems on the fence, it doesnt say if its fake or not or give any real hard information. just kinda mixed,

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    the diets the problem considering you havent gained 1lb in 5 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlavesOfLiberty View Post
    trust me i'm eating enough, even better and higher quality calories than when i was getting great gains on just test cyp months back.
    how are u eating enough and havent gained one single pound in over a month. u should gain weight even if it is bunk if ur diet and training are correct

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    X2 lights, you should be gaining weight anyway tbh!

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    gears prb bunk,, should be gainin even on a shitty diet.
    Last edited by chuckt12345; 05-19-2009 at 02:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    gears prb bunk,, should be gainin even on a shitty diet.
    i agree with u but his diet still isnt in check

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    ur gear is fake, without fail i would always gain 4 pounds 5 days after first inject,as stated above even on crappy diet you should have made gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ever41 View Post
    ur gear is fake, without fail i would always gain 4 pounds 5 days after first inject,as stated above even on crappy diet you should have made gains.
    5 days after first inject u would gain 4 pounds? on a long esther test? wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ever41 View Post
    ur gear is fake, without fail i would always gain 4 pounds 5 days after first inject,as stated above even on crappy diet you should have made gains.
    ur wrong. if u did it was from calorie intake.

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    thats what i thought lights! silly comment tbh

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    yes thats the truth sorry if you think its silly ( please offer an explanation ) and no not due to calorie intake, yes i have done more than 1 cycle in my time.

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    but a gain of 4lbs after 5 days of first injection of long esther test is not really viable is it, unless your using dbol as kic start but even then 4lbs in 5 days is exceptional. dbol doesnt really kick in till 10 days or so

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    that was without any type of kick start,my first few cycles were test only and the result was the same everytime the only reason i mentioned it was to try to show the op that if i got that in 5 days he should have got something in his time frame.

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    not gonna get anything of of enanthate in the first week.. water thats still a maybe.. maybe sust or prop

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    id be suprise if water was an issue in the first week! lol

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    of course it was water not trying to say i had that much muscle gain that fast.

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    i dont think i ever even got water gain on test enanthate in the first week. i dont think anything happened in the first week.... anyways............
    about week 5 is when everything should be coming out enough to were u know.. if not.. u got junk

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    Quote Originally Posted by busaboy27 View Post
    i dont think i ever even got water gain on test enanthate in the first week. i dont think anything happened in the first week.... anyways............
    about week 5 is when everything should be coming out enough to were u know.. if not.. u got junk
    so im just gonna come on here and post a lie? Unlike many posters i have seen i have no need to make a fabrication to get attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ever41 View Post
    so im just gonna come on here and post a lie? Unlike many posters i have seen i have no need to make a fabrication to get attention.
    i didnt say you....... did i? i said i dont think anything happened to me..

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    careful saying things bout other posters on here j4, saying they fabricate stuff probably isnt the wisest!

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