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    Winstrol Questions

    about me: around 5'9 155 lbs, was 10 maybe 11% body fat now.

    Most of my body fat is all in my stomache and I know people get good results with winstrol cutting because it sucks out all the water and hardens you.

    I will be taking winstrol alone with nothing else.

    My question to you guys is this: Will winstrol and a perfect diet/workout for 6 weeks cut my stomache down to 6pack and make my body look even better?

    Thanks

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    simply put no it wont

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    run the "perfect diet" without winstrol and maybe add some clen

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    My question to you guys is this: Will winstrol and a perfect diet/workout for 6 weeks cut my stomache down to 6pack and make my body look even better?

    yea it will but it wont be the winny

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    well basically I don't care about being strong or anything I just want to be cut, and i thought the winny would be a great support for the diet and help lose weight a little faster, while building muscle and providing me with harder workouts therefore burning more calories and getting way more cut
    is that not true?

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    youll get stronger put it really doesnt aid that much in muscle growth.

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    quote:My question to you guys is this: Will winstrol and a perfect diet/workout for 6 weeks cut my stomache down to 6pack and make my body look even better?

    Dont expect to make any big gains while your dieting ,you need a extra calories to gain mass. I always diet down to a lower weight and then gain weight back (muscle) as i cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR10X View Post
    quote:My question to you guys is this: Will winstrol and a perfect diet/workout for 6 weeks cut my stomache down to 6pack and make my body look even better?

    Dont expect to make any big gains while your dieting ,you need a extra calories to gain mass. I always diet down to a lower weight and then gain weight back (muscle) as i cycle.
    Anavar and Tren are the only steroids that have some fat-burning properties. Tren more than Anavar.

    However, Anavar is effective as a burner of fat in the abdominal area even at a dose of 20 mg/day.

    Winstrol doesn't burn fat; at least not markedly. It only "cuts" you, which means that it increases the density of myofibrils (contractile proteins) in muscle cells, lowers the percentage of water in muscles, and as a result, the muscles look harder and better defined. But if you have a high % of fat, you won't see much of the defined muscles under it. I have 20% of body fat and all I can see while on Winstrol are better defined shoulders, biceps and partly chest. Otherwise I can't see virtually any change in my body appearance.

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    so basically for someone like me, winstrol wouldnt do anything and would be a waste of my time? at least thast what im getting, you guys are saying it doesnt cut fat at all and it doesnt aid muscle growth

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixslow View Post
    so basically for someone like me, winstrol wouldnt do anything and would be a waste of my time? at least thast what im getting, you guys are saying it doesnt cut fat at all and it doesnt aid muscle growth
    Use the search tool, type in winstrol and see what comes up. Do alot of research and get your facts before introducing any foriegn substance into your body. I'll save you a little bit of time on this. Simply put, WINSTROL only cycles are horrible and should NEVER be ran with out some form of test. If your looking to get ****** try test prop and winni for a 6 week run.
    You will also need a good PCT! If you attempt to run winni alone I can promise you some things:1) you will shutdown your natural test production. Who knows if it will come back. 2) Your joints wll be sore as hell. 3) Your cholesterol levels will be jacked which puts you at risk for heart disease. 4) your liver will take a beating considering it's a 17-a steroid .= high liver toxic. 5) if you don't run a good pct after you can look foward to high estrogen and cortisol receptors making you fatter then when you started. 6) Hair loss. I could keep going but I'll leave the rest for you to research!

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    bro im 5'9" also. u can get up to 180 with a six pack all natural. if u really had an awesome diet and did some basic ab work it would be easy to accomplish a six pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ. View Post
    Use the search tool, type in winstrol and see what comes up. Do alot of research and get your facts before introducing any foriegn substance into your body. I'll save you a little bit of time on this. Simply put, WINSTROL only cycles are horrible and should NEVER be ran with out some form of test. If your looking to get ****** try test prop and winni for a 6 week run.
    You will also need a good PCT! If you attempt to run winni alone I can promise you some things:1) you will shutdown your natural test production. Who knows if it will come back. 2) Your joints wll be sore as hell. 3) Your cholesterol levels will be jacked which puts you at risk for heart disease. 4) your liver will take a beating considering it's a 17-a steroid .= high liver toxic. 5) if you don't run a good pct after you can look foward to high estrogen and cortisol receptors making you fatter then when you started. 6) Hair loss. I could keep going but I'll leave the rest for you to research!
    This is a strange "advice", really, because Winstrol with testosterone will make everything you listed even worse. There is no reason, why he shouldn't run it alone. If he runs it only once or twice. The recuperation from Winstrol is quick and not too difficult. I have kept all my strength gains from it, and I even went up a bit during my PCT (creatine+tamoxifen ).

    However, it is true that size gains from Winstrol are modest at best. After two 5-6-week cycles with Winstrol, I have markedly improved my personal bests on biceps curls and other exercises, but my bodily circumferences have increased only slightly. Something like 3-4 cm (1-1,5 inch) on chest, 1 cm (less than 0,5 inch) on biceps. If you want to gain only "clean" muscle mass, your gains will be pretty mild. The volumes in huge bodybuilders are simply made up by water.

    I have heard about a man, who took 100 mg/day and reported impressive size gains. However, this dose would be too risky, and not only for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroidman99 View Post
    This is a strange "advice", really, because Winstrol with testosterone will make everything you listed even worse. There is no reason, why he shouldn't run it alone. If he runs it only once or twice. The recuperation from Winstrol is quick and not too difficult. I have kept all my strength gains from it, and I even went up a bit during my PCT (creatine+tamoxifen ).

    However, it is true that size gains from Winstrol are modest at best. After two 5-6-week cycles with Winstrol, I have markedly improved my personal bests on biceps curls and other exercises, but my bodily circumferences have increased only slightly. Something like 3-4 cm (1-1,5 inch) on chest, 1 cm (less than 0,5 inch) on biceps. If you want to gain only "clean" muscle mass, your gains will be pretty mild. The volumes in huge bodybuilders are simply made up by water.

    I have heard about a man, who took 100 mg/day and reported impressive size gains. However, this dose would be too risky, and not only for me.
    are you serious??? So you are advocating Winny alone?? You enjoy having NO TESTOSTERONE in your body???

    Winny by itself is NO GOOD !!
    It WILL shut down your natural production of Test! You will need PCT to recover

    Gee lets see what fun we have to look forward to with NO test in our bodies....shall we?

    Symptoms of low testosterone can include:

    * A lack of energy;
    * Low libido (sex drive);
    * Depression;
    * Irritability;
    * Fatigue;
    * Postural problems;
    * Increased blood pressure;
    * Loss of muscle;
    * You exercise consistently but can't add any lean muscle;
    * Loss of muscular strength;
    * Loss of muscular endurance;
    * Physical height reduction;
    * Your erections are not "rock hard";
    * Sleep disorders.

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    boy another winny alone argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroidman99 View Post
    This is a strange "advice", really, because Winstrol with testosterone will make everything you listed even worse. There is no reason, why he shouldn't run it alone. If he runs it only once or twice. The recuperation from Winstrol is quick and not too difficult. I have kept all my strength gains from it, and I even went up a bit during my PCT (creatine+tamoxifen ).

    However, it is true that size gains from Winstrol are modest at best. After two 5-6-week cycles with Winstrol, I have markedly improved my personal bests on biceps curls and other exercises, but my bodily circumferences have increased only slightly. Something like 3-4 cm (1-1,5 inch) on chest, 1 cm (less than 0,5 inch) on biceps. If you want to gain only "clean" muscle mass, your gains will be pretty mild. The volumes in huge bodybuilders are simply made up by water.

    I have heard about a man, who took 100 mg/day and reported impressive size gains. However, this dose would be too risky, and not only for me.
    I am not trying to offend you, but winni should NEVER be ran alone! Anyone who wants to run stanozolol alone, has or continues to do so has not learned anything from this web site and all the moderators and hall of famers knowledge! You should not be giving that kind of advice! I hope the OP does not take your comments into concideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ. View Post
    I am not trying to offend you, but winni should NEVER be ran alone! Anyone who wants to run stanozolol alone, has or continues to do so has not learned anything from this web site and all the moderators and hall of famers knowledge! You should not be giving that kind of advice! I hope the OP does not take your comments into concideration.
    I won't run Winstrol anymore because of the risk of hairloss and immense joint pain that changes my training into a medieval torture. I ran it with T-bol, but T-bol doesn't work in me anyway and only bloated me with water.

    I felt a bit flegmatic and demotivated during the cycle and ca. six weeks after, but nothing so serious. Naturally, I went down with my doses slowly - I took 10 mg of each steroid for the last 10 days of the cycle. As for my PCT, I used 20 mg of Tamoxifen for 2 weeks and 10 mg for another 4 weeks + creatine. And I felt no loss of strength. To the contrary, I was surprised that I even improved a bit during the PCT, despite warnings that Tamoxifen lowers the concentration of growth factors in the body. My weight dropped (water from T-bol), but I didn't regret it, because it only made me fat and bloated in the face.

    Naturally, if you must meet the needs of your girl every night and day, some side effects that someone would barely bother with may be virtually tragical for you. But that's the matter of opinion. Please, don't push testosterone to everybody's cycle, when he may not need it at all, and he can bitterly regret its side effects.
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    dont push testosterone in every cycle? and is this why steroids have a bad name is cause uninformed people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroidman99 View Post
    Please, don't push testosterone to everybody's cycle, when he may not need it at all.

    ~Big shakes his head and leaves the thread~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post

    ~Big shakes his head and leaves the thread~
    Dont leave the thread, ban the prick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Dont leave the thread, ban the prick...
    You didn't understand me? I don't want to be bald like some Kojak. I have been on various kinds of hair therapy for more than 12 years and thanks to it, I have kept almost all of my hair. I won't lose it because of somebody's "good advice". My cycle with Winstrol was a risky business anyway, and since I feel some suspicious shedding after my last cycle, I won't touch it anymore.

    I will concentrate only on mild steroids like Anavar , nandrolone or boldenone .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroidman99 View Post
    You didn't understand me? I don't want to be bald like some Kojak. I have been on various kinds of hair therapy for more than 12 years and thanks to it, I have kept almost all of my hair. I won't lose it because of somebody's "good advice". My cycle with Winstrol was a risky business anyway, and since I feel some suspicious shedding after my last cycle, I won't touch it anymore.

    I will concentrate only on mild steroids like Anavar, nandrolone or boldenone.

    well that being said....(My cycle with Winstrol was a risky business anyway,) just dont tell other people to do it without test thats all..

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    Quote Originally Posted by busaboy27 View Post
    well that being said....(My cycle with Winstrol was a risky business anyway,) just dont tell other people to do it without test thats all..
    I really don't know, what this discussion is about. You recommend testosterone into a cycle, because many people "don't feel well" without it and can't have sex with their girlfriend. (Besides that it can be well stacked with other steroids .)

    I say that I won't take it because it has side effects that can have a very serious impact on me. Even strong acne can f*ck up the rest of your life, because it can leave scars (I'm not saying that other steroids don't cause acne, but I simply won't risk steroids that have more these side effects.)

    Do we understand each other?

    I can certainly survive 2-3 months without test in my body, if I gain a lot of strength and some decent size. Exogenous test won't help me with recuperation after the cycle (to the contrary, it will make it worse), it can worsen side effects (especially in combination with such SHBG-lowering products like Winstrol ) and it certainly won't lower my bad cholesterol. I didn't say that Winstrol is a harmless drug; adding test will certainly improve overall results, but it won't make the cycle safer and the gains more keepable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ. View Post
    Use the search tool, type in winstrol and see what comes up. Do alot of research and get your facts before introducing any foriegn substance into your body. I'll save you a little bit of time on this. Simply put, WINSTROL only cycles are horrible and should NEVER be ran with out some form of test. If your looking to get ****** try test prop and winni for a 6 week run.
    You will also need a good PCT! If you attempt to run winni alone I can promise you some things:1) you will shutdown your natural test production. Who knows if it will come back. 2) Your joints wll be sore as hell. 3) Your cholesterol levels will be jacked which puts you at risk for heart disease. 4) your liver will take a beating considering it's a 17-a steroid .= high liver toxic. 5) if you don't run a good pct after you can look foward to high estrogen and cortisol receptors making you fatter then when you started. 6) Hair loss. I could keep going but I'll leave the rest for you to research!
    Have you ever done a winstrol only cycle?

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    ok well lets say i get tes with it.... will it reach my ultimate goal? im at 10% body fat i want a damn sixpack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixslow View Post
    ok well lets say i get tes with it.... will it reach my ultimate goal? im at 10% body fat i want a damn sixpack!
    When will all you people realize that getting a "six pack" is about DIET NOT STEROIDS ???????????


    You can take all the steroids in the world, but if your diet and training are poor, or lazy, then you will NOT get the results

    If your diet is CORRECT for your body and goals, then YES you will get your six pack....DO NOT rely on the steroids to do that, you will be disappointed

    and IF you were at 10%, you would already be showing a 6 pack. hell I am at 15% and still have the lines showing to my abs

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    If you don't have good abs showing, you are not 10%bf.

    Will you post a pic to show us what you're working with?

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    thats why i need the steroids , i am at 10% with no ab muscles, the steroids im hoping will help me build them quick. but you guys have convinced me not to go on winstrol and now im researching anavar and so far it looks really good, but it just says its a fat burner? does it aid muscle growth alot?

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    ps. yes im 10% body fat i got tested the other day, my whole bodys skinny and i have pecks from working out, but my stomache is just shit because if you knew my diet you would be amazed how bad it is + i drink a lot @ partys

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixslow View Post
    ps. yes im 10% body fat i got tested the other day, my whole bodys skinny and i have pecks from working out, but my stomache is just shit because if you knew my diet you would be amazed how bad it is + i drink a lot @ partys
    My point exactly then !! You don't need steroids . You need dedication to your goals and a clean diet and cut the drinking.....

    You do NOT want to be drinking while on steroids..... might as well just put the gun to your head and pull the trigger cause you will NOT see your goals that way

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    yeah i know that, i plan to stop drinking and getting a perfect diet when i get whatever im gonna buy, ive done it once before but without steroids and i saw results but not quick enough so i went back to eating shitty and drinking

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    anavar sounds like its what i need, im going for it.

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    man u need more help than any one or any aas can give you.its almost offensive to see peeps like you whom think thay can take a magic pill and get them big and ******.......when are you all going to realize that fitness is a lifestyle not "i think im going to be serious for like 6 weeks or so and get me the perfect diet and see all my wildest fittness dreams come true." dude,untill you find out how to eat and train to lose weight naturaly how can aas be of any assistance? you will just stumble along wonering why its not working.good luck whatever you do...

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    how about locking this thread up?

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    Seriously this is crazy, you say you want to gain strenght and size but a) whatever you gain will be lost, because no offence it doesnt seem like you know how to keep these gains and b) Stick with the diet, you said it worked for you before but not quick enough, gear isnt magic dude, if you dont have a diet pinned i doubt very much you will see anything... think of all that money you could save and buy nice healthy foods with!!!

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    How long can I go tst 250mg + derivates DHT? Simple TST go only 6 weeks.

    I want not big cycle but I want to do low doses of testosteron long time only for regeneration and psychical changes?

    Sorry for bad english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepous View Post
    How long can I go tst 250mg + derivates DHT? Simple TST go only 6 weeks.

    I want not big cycle but I want to do low doses of testosteron long time only for regeneration and psychical changes?

    Sorry for bad english.
    start your own thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixslow View Post
    about me: around 5'9 155 lbs, was 10 maybe 11% body fat now.

    Most of my body fat is all in my stomache and I know people get good results with winstrol cutting because it sucks out all the water and hardens you.

    I will be taking winstrol alone with nothing else.

    My question to you guys is this: Will winstrol and a perfect diet/workout for 6 weeks cut my stomache down to 6pack and make my body look even better?

    how do you not see a 6 pack @ 11% bf?!?!?! im 14% (bulking)and i can still see mine a little
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    winstrol alone for 6 weeks??!!!?? you are crazzy dude better not be oral

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