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    im_new_at_this is offline New Member
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    Advice please

    im a new member to this site. i have been researching what my smartest first cycle would be for the past year or so now and i cant seem to come to any sort of comforting conclusion.
    im 23 years old, been training for 3 years seriously, 8 years total
    5'10
    187lbs
    live in ontario canada
    ...heres the catch
    i have genetic high cholesterol - homozygous-familial-hypercholesterolemia
    and go for weekly plasmapheresis
    now i know its not likely in my best interest to be doing any kind of anabolics but im basically just hoping to find the "safest" choices for drugs for my situation.

    im not looking to put on any more than 10-15 pounds by the end of the cycle.
    i was looking at doing a cycle of anavar tabs / deca inject with propecia. any thoughts? ive read not to use deca without a test, but from my understanding anavar would be ample replacement for a beginner cycle to replace test to prevent natural testosterone shut downa nd sexual dysfunction?

    thoughts? advice?

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    Wow lol, i reckon you could make those gains through diet alone....

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    Welcome to the forums

    Anavar will not replace your test in your body. Therefore deca I wouldn't use either for a first cycle. Have you though of anything like Test Cyp? Also you will want to look up PCT since that will be needed at the end of the cycle. There is so much information on this site to help you get going. All the information is in the forums(stickies will be your friend).

    Also you should post yourself in the welcome fourms so we all can be introduced to you

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    Maybe you should research a little more...thats a terrible cycle imo

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    thats why i posted the thread! any better opinions are appreciated.
    not gunna lie, i dunno if you read MD, but dave palumbo had two 6 week cycles posted in the june 2008 issue.
    a 19 year old kid wrote asking for a low side cycle, hoping for no acne.
    the first was an anavar /deca /propecia cycle
    and the second was winstrol /primo/propecia
    it said that due to the relatively mild nature and short duration of the cycles little or no PCT was needed.
    just to explain my thinking

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    well i would post myself in a welcome forum, but im not sure even how to do that yet! ha thanks for the info and the response though. if you can tip me off to where to go to get to the welcome forum(s)? even better! ha

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    test man thats all you need

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    OK..heres what I think....test prop at 100 mg's eod along with anavar at 50 mg's ed...the test goes 8 weeks the var goes first 5-6....follow that with pct 2 days after last shot...you'll get lean gains providing you know whats up with the diet and training...if 8 is too long..cut it at 6 weeks..

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    what do you think about dbol ?
    i had a guy trying to sell me on 400mg of cyp/week + 30mg? (i think)dbol/daily
    kinda the bread and butter type cycle from what it sounded at the time.
    PCT is hard to come by around here though, any tips? send me a message if you want

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    Quote Originally Posted by im_new_at_this View Post
    what do you think about dbol ?
    i had a guy trying to sell me on 400mg of cyp/week + 30mg? (i think)dbol/daily
    kinda the bread and butter type cycle from what it sounded at the time.
    PCT is hard to come by around here though, any tips? send me a message if you want
    Can't message you Bro...not enough posts....I'd skip the dbol altogether..the gains are mostly water and you'll lose them...400 mg's of cyp is fine for a cycle....

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    just test? what kind? cyp? prop?
    suggested cycle/dosage?

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    Just because someone tries to see you something does not mean it's good. Ever been to a used car lot? LOL
    We dont sell here so you will get good advise.

    You must not have done much reasearch the last year or you would realize a few things.

    You are still to young for steroids .
    You can reach your gains easily with diet/exercise.
    You will do your body damage if you cycle at your age. maybe not now, not 10 years from now but it will happen.
    IF you are not already inn top form before a cycle you will do more harm than good, water weight, bloat, acne and other sides.

    Your first cycle is spelled out 100s of times IF you did any reading. First cycle should ONLY be Test E. Anyone who tells you different is full of BS and trying to sell you something or has no idea what they are talking about.
    yes you can stack but why??? it's a bad idea for first cycle.

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    Just make it easy on yourself... Do Test E (2 shots a week) 400-500mg Ew total. Do not do any D-bol with it or anything else! The test alone (for 12-14 weeks) will give you great gains! Anyhting else IMO would be a waste /stupid Get youself some some Clomid and Nolva to have on hand for PCT and you will be a happy boy in three months!!

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    Yeh I would use test or cyp if i were you. Very important to make sure you have everything on hand for afterwards and plenty of it! All of the PCT stuff is pretty cheap so i would not worry about the extra little money it will cost ya

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    PCT may be cheap but its hard to find! seems backwards to me too, i know...

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    Easy to find when looking at the top of the page...

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    Or when clicking on the word PCT even...

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    its legit off here?

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