First Cycle - Need some help and clarification please....

[kevz99]

I'm 28, 6'2, and about 165 lbs. I'm looking to put on some weight and lean mass. I've gotten up to about 180-185 lbs. once before, and that's when I was taking numerous over the counter supplements, but lost the weight whortly after. I'm wanting to put on some size this time, and need help as far as the route to go. This will be my first time cycling. A friend of mine suggested doing Test 500mg, along with D-Bal to jump start. Now, taking it from there, I would love to hear some feed back as what else I should do or make sure I have on hand...... Thanks.

[G4R]

What does your diet look like (details please)

[Roshambo]

Here is all you need Bro,
UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

As far as cycling you need to post your stats,

BF%
Yrs Training
Diet
PCT(Post Cycle Therapy )

It's hard to give good advice when there are many unknowns. But as for a First time cycle, you should go Test only, either Test Cyp or Enth. nothing else.

[c-Z]

6'2... 165lbs.... Diet is definitely lacking..... Please post bro.

[Tigershark]

Yep looks like diet. I was in the same boat as you, then I fixed my diet and things have never been better.

[kevz99]

Hey Tigershark, I'll be posting my diet on here in just a few minutes, but what is it that you changed, where you started noticing a difference.....?

[T-MOS]

at 6'2, the natural potential for your frame is about 220-230 lbs. That means that you SHOULD be able to get to and maintain at least 220 BEFORE ever needing steroids

you got up to 185, what happened? If you can't maintain even 185, what makes you think you will be able to maintain any gains you make from using steroids before you reach your natural potential?

YES you will make gains! but if you don't know how to eat correctly NOW to get there, then you will be wasting the gear and stressing your body for nothing

it ALL about DIET and hwo and when you eat....IF you get that corrected and are consistent with that then you will start to make gains NATURALLY.....

[kevz99]

Here's the newest diet I'm on:

MEAL #1
1 cup oatmeal
1 scoop whey protein
1 cup orange juice
4 whole eggs, cooked

MEAL #2
2 small cans of tuna
1 tbsp mayonaise

MEAL #3
1 whole boneless skinless chicken breast
1 1/2 cups cooked brown rice
1 cup cooked vegetables

MEAL #4
1 banana
1 cup cooked vegetables
1 oz unroasted almonds
1 cup orange juice

MEAL #5
PWO shake - 3 scoops whey protein

MEAL #6
1 whole boneless skinless chicken breast
1 1/2 cups cooked brown rice
1 cup cooked vegetables

MEAL #7
3 tbsp peanut butter

MEAL #8
2 scoops whey protein

Totals about 3,386 calories, 129 grams of fat, 260 grams of carbs, and 296 grams of protein.

[bakie]

Keyword newest... If you hold to that for a month faithfully you will put on 8 lbs at least. I would say even more myself, what was your prior diet looking like? What is your current training routine looking like?

[kevz99]

and about 11% bf.

[kevz99]

previous diet wasn't nearly as routine as it is now, nor as much intake as now, just because of situations at the time. I'll keep this diet up for a month or so and see how it goes. Any other suggestions as to bulking up?

[ninesecz]

Here's the newest diet I'm on:

MEAL #1
1 cup oatmeal
1 scoop whey protein
1 cup orange juice
4 whole eggs, cooked

MEAL #2
2 small cans of tuna
1 tbsp mayonaise

MEAL #3
1 whole boneless skinless chicken breast
1 1/2 cups cooked brown rice
1 cup cooked vegetables

MEAL #4
1 banana
1 cup cooked vegetables
1 oz unroasted almonds
1 cup orange juice

MEAL #5
PWO shake - 3 scoops whey protein

MEAL #6
1 whole boneless skinless chicken breast
1 1/2 cups cooked brown rice
1 cup cooked vegetables

MEAL #7
3 tbsp peanut butter

MEAL #8
2 scoops whey protein

Totals about 3,386 calories, 129 grams of fat, 260 grams of carbs, and 296 grams of protein.

If ate that diet you are on I would lose weight and strength so fast I would think I was dying! eat 3300 calories by the time I even get to the gym

[lovbyts]

now that u posted it do it. eat

[c-Z]

Meal 5, 7 , 8 are rather useless..... Protein shakes are quick energy. I would much rather substitute whole foods in there rather then liquid..... Others can use some small tweaking as well... Try getting at phate or jamyjamjr