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  1. 06-12-2009, 10:43 AM #1
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    Benadryl reduces sleep quality and recovery ??

    i heard from someone today that benadryl ( diphenhydramine) actually makes the body gets lesser REM sleep and doesnt sleep as deep...

    which explains the morning grogginess people get... and impairs recovery...


    does this mean ketotifen will be a better alternative to benadryl in stacking it with clen
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  2. 06-15-2009, 10:04 PM #2
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    Its said Ketotifen is better than benny. Forget the sleep quality but its debatable that benny actually helps the recpetors in any ways. Go for Ketotifen.
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    Dunno, I personally sleep like a log when I take a bene. It's possible about that I'm not fully hitting REM because I dream less while on bene as well.
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    I have heard this about the REM sleep as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxterxx View Post
    i heard from someone today that benadryl ( diphenhydramine) actually makes the body gets lesser REM sleep and doesnt sleep as deep...

    which explains the morning grogginess people get... and impairs recovery...


    does this mean ketotifen will be a better alternative to benadryl in stacking it with clen
    Benadryl will not upregulate your receptors when taking clen !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Benadryl will not upregulate your receptors when taking clen!
    I agree, at least I never seen any studies showing it would...


    I can say personally I get some of the shittest sleeps on in... but thats just me.
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  7. 06-16-2009, 08:58 AM #7
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    knocks me the fk out and i seem to sleep well
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  8. 06-16-2009, 12:09 PM #8
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    Knocks me out as well
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  9. 06-16-2009, 12:38 PM #9
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    yes it does reduce rem sleep, its not good to take all the time. It messes with your natural sleep cycle.
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