tbol users chime in please!

[POPS]

getting ready to pull the trigger on my first cycle of tbol @ 50mg/day for 6 weeks and use nolva @ 40/40/20/20 for pct.

any suggestions?

pros and cons?

when will I start to see of feel results?

my stats : 39, 5'7 190

cycled h-drol this past Jan. for 4 weeks @50 mg/day and used tamox @ 40/40/20/20 for 4 weeks as well and loved the results.

thought Id take it to the next level. Sorry guys, no pinning here.....

[POPS]

bump..................

[MACKATTACK]

I had a question in realtion to this, what would people think about starting the Nolva during the last week of Tbol or just start PCT after the last day of Tbol??

[POPS]

I had a question in realtion to this, what would people think about starting the Nolva during the last week of Tbol or just start PCT after the last day of Tbol??

I think that if WE end our cycle on Friday then we start pct on Saturday.

[killagorilla187]

I think you should notice some effects in as little as 4 days. I am on test prop/tbol/winny/adex and its only been 2 weeks and I am seeing amazing results so far.

[Free Will]

ok forgive me here but is TBOL that you are referring to TRINABOL ? if so is it any good ? i have access to TRINABOL but have not heard much about it ?

[Free Will]

and how the hell do i get a profile pic up here ? lol

[azz10]

50mg ed for 6weeks looks good. but u might wanna bump it up to 60-80mg if you find the gains lacking. PCT is great. u've done ur research well mate..

[Bio-boosted]

PCT the next day. i've been told that 3 weeks is enuff @ 40/20/20, or 20 days of Clomid @100/day.
Another option I've been given is 250iu HCG e3d. dunno about that tho.

Hey good luck, post your progress. I'm doing that very same. Soon as the postie arrives...

[MACKATTACK]

I think that if WE end our cycle on Friday then we start pct on Saturday.

Yea but are you also doing the 60mgs for the 50 days like me?? (300 pills)

I am gonna do the Nolva at 40/20/20 and start it the day after the last day of tbol then.



And for the guy above we are talking about TURANABOL = TBOL

[killagorilla187]

T-bol blows away h-drol!

[POPS]

Yea but are you also doing the 60mgs for the 50 days like me?? (300 pills)

I am gonna do the Nolva at 40/20/20 and start it the day after the last day of tbol then.



And for the guy above we are talking about TURANABOL = TBOL

im still waiting to hear from swifto on this, but if I do nt hear from him in a few, I think Ill go with 50mg/day ( 30am and 20pm ). Ill do pct the same 40/20/20..

[milkoman16]

I just finished a 6 week cycle of T-BOL only & I just started PCT this week. Got great results from this stuff. Gained about 15 lbs. of lean muscle, no bloat, & very minimal sides (pumps, headache) Strength gains were impressive as far as I'm concerned for an oral only cycle. Noticed good gains in first week & small weight gain & then from weeks 3-6 I had solid weight gain & strength went up considerably. Hope this helps -

[POPS]

I just finished a 6 week cycle of T-BOL only & I just started PCT this week. Got great results from this stuff. Gained about 15 lbs. of lean muscle, no bloat, & very minimal sides (pumps, headache) Strength gains were impressive as far as I'm concerned for an oral only cycle. Noticed good gains in first week & small weight gain & then from weeks 3-6 I had solid weight gain & strength went up considerably. Hope this helps -

few questions:

did you use for cutting or bulking?
drop any fat?
how and when did you dose?
what did you do for cardio?
# of cals/day? I guess this would go with either u were cutting or bulking

thanks in advance....

[ray0414]

im also possibly doing a tbol only cycle soon, what is 40/20/20? i would shit bricks if i gained 15lbs of lean muscle from a tbol only cycle, what was the diet like?

[POPS]

im also possibly doing a tbol only cycle soon, what is 40/20/20? i would shit bricks if i gained 15lbs of lean muscle from a tbol only cycle, what was the diet like?

sorry bro, 40mg nolva for week 1 and 20mg nolva for weeks 2 and 3.

also, not to sound negative but 15 lbs on a tbol only cycle for 6 weeks?? for what I have been researching in the past few weeks you would be lucky to gain 5-8 with a great diet. jmo....

[MACKATTACK]

sorry bro, 40mg nolva for week 1 and 20mg nolva for weeks 2 and 3.

also, not to sound negative but 15 lbs on a tbol only cycle for 6 weeks?? for what I have been researching in the past few weeks you would be lucky to gain 5-8 with a great diet. jmo....

Everything i have read about peoples Tbol cycles that were ONLY 4 or 5 weeks gained 10+ lbs eveerytime. Also heard alot of stories of people gaining upwards of 15lbs........

[POPS]

Everything i have read about peoples Tbol cycles that were ONLY 4 or 5 weeks gained 10+ lbs eveerytime. Also heard alot of stories of people gaining upwards of 15lbs........

are they gaining this type of weight during a bulk or cut? I have read that it can be used for both. For me, I will use as a cut. Damn, if I were to use a bulk Id be in trouble because I got rid of all of my fat clothes when I lost 15 lbs, lol.....

[MACKATTACK]

are they gaining this type of weight during a bulk or cut? I have read that it can be used for both. For me, I will use as a cut. Damn, if I were to use a bulk Id be in trouble because I got rid of all of my fat clothes when I lost 15 lbs, lol.....

Well assuming you are using it to cut does mean that you will drop body fat % and possibly gain in muscle so the "number" may change a little but your "size" may stay the same but your phisique would improve tremendously.


Bascially if you are doing a ton of cardio and eating clean and lifting 4-5 times a week you are going to put on some lean mass so you will probably have No bloat at all which will lead to better physique. Some people have attested to bloating a little on tbol in the past btw.

[POPS]

hey Mack, a guy pm'd me last night and said that there could be gyno from tbol. Ive never heard anyone say this, have you? Maybe if the dose is too high?

[MACKATTACK]

hey Mack, a guy pm'd me last night and said that there could be gyno from tbol. Ive never heard anyone say this, have you? Maybe if the dose is too high?

With Tbol alone it has the chance to aromatise but thats at higher dosages at like 80mgs +. BUT, thats why i was asking if we could start the Nolva early like this......

Week 1= 60mg Tbol
Week 2= 60mg Tbol
Week 3= 60mg Tbol
Week 4= 60mg Tbol
Week 5= 60mg Tbol, 20mg Nolva
Week 6= 60mg Tbol, 20 mg Nolva
Week 7= 20 mg Nolva
Week 8= 20 mg Nolva

Aromatization form my under standing takes a little while to settle in so 4 weeks of the tbol alone wouldnt lead too it and the Nolva in weeks 5 and 6 would prevent it which it would somewhat start.

[POPS]

With Tbol alone it has the chance to aromatise but thats at higher dosages at like 80mgs +. BUT, thats why i was asking if we could start the Nolva early like this......

Week 1= 60mg Tbol
Week 2= 60mg Tbol
Week 3= 60mg Tbol
Week 4= 60mg Tbol
Week 5= 60mg Tbol, 20mg Nolva
Week 6= 60mg Tbol, 20 mg Nolva
Week 7= 20 mg Nolva
Week 8= 20 mg Nolva

never thought of that one bro!

anyone else to comment on this???

[MACKATTACK]

Maybe BIG or SWIFTO can comment??

[POPS]

Maybe BIG or SWIFTO can comment??

Im waiting for a pm from t-mos, but I pm'd swifto a few days ago and I dont want to pester him..Honestly, if nobody comments on this right away, no biggie. If its suggested to start pct during week 4 then no big deal cause we already have it on hand..... f**k it, Im ordering right now!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bio-boosted]

With Tbol alone it has the chance to aromatise but thats at higher dosages at like 80mgs +. BUT, thats why i was asking if we could start the Nolva early like this......

Week 1= 60mg Tbol
Week 2= 60mg Tbol
Week 3= 60mg Tbol
Week 4= 60mg Tbol
Week 5= 60mg Tbol, 20mg Nolva
Week 6= 60mg Tbol, 20 mg Nolva
Week 7= 20 mg Nolva
Week 8= 20 mg Nolva

Aromatization form my under standing takes a little while to settle in so 4 weeks of the tbol alone wouldnt lead too it and the Nolva in weeks 5 and 6 would prevent it which it would somewhat start.

huh

[MACKATTACK]

huh

Tbol takes a while to kick in.......so my assumption is that if any Gyno would show its face later in the cycle so you would start the Nolva towards the last two weeks. People have done this with cycles before.......

[POPS]

Tbol takes a while to kick in.......so my assumption is that if any Gyno would show its face later in the cycle so you would start the Nolva towards the last two weeks. People have done this with cycles before.......

t-mos advises to start pct day after last dose. Im gonna roll w/that....

[T-MOS]

t-mos advises to start pct day after last dose. Im gonna roll w/that....

well, IF you would start to see any signs of gyno, you may want to start a low dose of nolva early, but i wouldn't start it unless there were signs

[MACKATTACK]

t-mos advises to start pct day after last dose. Im gonna roll w/that....

I'm gonna do that too but if my nipples start getting itchy or hot i will start the Nolva.......

[MACKATTACK]

Tmos beat me to it DAMN!

[T-MOS]

Tmos beat me to it DAMN!

sorry...............

[MACKATTACK]

What sucks is I have everything I need sitting in my cabinet but i still have 8 days left on this Anavar cycle and then PCT and then a few weeks rest before i can even take the Tbol. F*CK!!!

[POPS]

well, IF you would start to see any signs of gyno, you may want to start a low dose of nolva early, but i wouldn't start it unless there were signs

from what I have researched gyno is not an issue. But I know that it does not mean that it cannot happen. To be on the safe side Ive decided to run 40 mg/day for 6 weeks and nolva for 4 weeks @ 40/40/20/20..

[steiner1]

[QUOTE=MACKATTACK;4701345]With Tbol alone it has the chance to aromatise but thats at higher dosages at like 80mgs +. BUT, thats why i was asking if we could start the Nolva early like this......

im thinking of doing this cycle as well , got the t-bol and nolva, what do you suggest as dosage for 170lb, guy like myself? i have 25 mg tabs. thanks!

[ray0414]

[QUOTE=steiner1;4702176]

With Tbol alone it has the chance to aromatise but thats at higher dosages at like 80mgs +. BUT, thats why i was asking if we could start the Nolva early like this......

im thinking of doing this cycle as well , got the t-bol and nolva, what do you suggest as dosage for 170lb, guy like myself? i have 25 mg tabs. thanks!

take 25mg twice a day.

[steiner1]

i was thinking 1 tab a day at 25mg, for first week , then going up to 2 tabs a day for 5 weeks after , then go on p.c.t . any thoughts ?

[MACKATTACK]

Personally I am running 60mgs from the jump and for a total of 50 days with Nolva as PCT at 20 mgs ED after the last day of Tbol.

[ray0414]

i was thinking 1 tab a day at 25mg, for first week , then going up to 2 tabs a day for 5 weeks after , then go on p.c.t . any thoughts ?

from what i have read that could be a waste of money, it takes a few weeks for tbol to kick in so that first week would almost be a waste cuase its greatly under dosed. maybe 1 or 2 days at 25 but then go up to 50.

[milkoman16]

few questions:

did you use for cutting or bulking?
drop any fat?
how and when did you dose?
what did you do for cardio?
# of cals/day? I guess this would go with either u were cutting or bulking

thanks in advance....

I used the T-Bol for a slight bulking cycle but found out that it helps with cutting bodyfat as long as your diet is clean. I started with 40 mg's a day for first couple days to see how my body would react then I went to 50 mg's for duration of the cycle. I kept the cardio very light as I wanted to gain a bit of dry lean bulk. You may notice that the pumps you get will prevent you from doing alot of cardio anyway.

14lbs of lean muscle mass was achieved in 6 week cycle. My workout partner also ran the T-bol cycle with me & he gained 17 lbs of lean muscle. It all depends on your goals, diet, & makeup I guess. It seems it takes about 2-2.5 weeks before you start noticing big gains in strength & bodyweight.

I can't imagine running 80 mg's ed - sheesh......lol

[JiGGaMaN]

nolva @ 20mg/day for 2 weeks is enough for pct.