Post Injection Redness

[jackjackson]

Had an injection into my delts thursday night.
Redness started friday, today is sunday and still red.
Its not sore, just a bit warm and a littler tighter than normal.
Other than that the damn thing itches.

Is this normal?
I did do some searches and came up with 7-8 threads.
I'm injecting
Test E 1ml/250mg with a 23 1" gauge
I hit my left delt last week and it was just sore, not sure why the hell this one is red and the other one was so smooth.
Any ideas or things to do such as an ice pack, heat, anti inflammatory?

Not sure myself first cycle
Thanks again guys

[Big]

not normal, how red is it? from your normal skin color, is it more like a mild sunburn or worse?

[jackjackson]

Will post a photo

[HIITB$]

I have this happen now and then...not really sure why it happens one time and the next it doesnt out of same vial but...

Just keep an eye on it and yeah people will say different things about ice and heat..some believe heat will help the crystals dissolve faster and some say ice. For me ice definately makes it feel better just not sure if it speeds up recovery faster or not lol

It may spread into your arm a little with the pink and swoll but dont worry it should go away within 4-5 days prolly.

Im not a Doc so obviously just make sure you're not running a fever etc..if you get some of those signs id go see a doc.

[jackjackson]

Im not running a fever that I know of.
I will say that doing a front double bicep pose I do feel a little muscle pain, other than that I feel nothing at all.
****ing thing just itches.

Put calamine lotion on it earlier
Sat and Sun are my off days so don't mind me looking like shit

[stillandbox]

How do you clean the site before an injection?

You might not have a fever, but it does look like an infection.

[jackjackson]

Shower, then alcohol swab.

[HIITB$]

I shot in my shoulder and it went into my arm and looked EXACTLY like your does..I cant honestly say what it is because im no doctor tho

I waited and in about 4 days it went away..

[jackjackson]

Another relaxed photo

[HIITB$]

Bro maybe a lil off topic but seems like you'd cut a little before you started hitting the anabolics?! Kind of rule of thumb and it makes sense to me that you be under 15% ish before you do a cycle, you know?

[doctorclaus]

I got your answer..... Did you do arms a day or before injecting????

[doctorclaus]

Bro maybe a lil off topic but seems like you'd cut a little before you started hitting the anabolics?! Kind of rule of thumb and it makes sense to me that you be under 15% ish before you do a cycle, you know?

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD SAY SOMETHING LOLOLOL

[jackjackson]

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD SAY SOMETHING LOLOLOL

I was at about 13% before starting and I agree i look a little fatter there.
I am relaxed with no stomach tightening.
Im not mad at all, but just to let you know I did my homework and I do know how to drop it when im done.


as a matter of fact I did.
Thursday shoulders
Friday night bi/tri

[jackjackson]

read
Comparison thoughts

[Big]

I don't like the looks of that, consider seeing a doc if it doesn't get better pretty quickly.

[HIITB$]

judging from that pic id say about 25% bro

[KatsMeow]

With it being warm and itching, I'm going to vote for an infection, are you also swabbing the rubber plunger on top of the vial before you insert the needle into it? It can be a breeding ground for bacteria.

But from the looks of it I would advise you to seek some medical attention just to be safe.

[stillandbox]

Has the redness gotten bigger since you've noticed it? After looking at the second picture, I'm now 100% convinced that it's an infection. You use a different needle every time right? (a clean needle to draw up and a clean needle to inject) And new syringes each time?

I'd get to your doctor and get that looked at

[jackjackson]

Last night I just took 2 ibuprofen 400mg and another this morn.
Not sure if thats it but it cleaned up a bit.
Iced it a bit as well.
If nothing clears up, I am scheduling a doc apt soon.
Do I just let him know the truth, Or say it was a Vit B12 shot.
There is a patience and doc confidentiality agreement im pretty sure
I use different needles which are brand new and a different syringe each injection, all disposable.
Yes I swab the top of the vial with an alcohol swab every time I pull
I swab the top of the vial, let it dry on its own
pull with an 18g into a 3ml syringe
switch needle to a 22 or 23G depending on spot
clean injection site with an alcohol swab
Inject, aspirate , if no blood inject oil slowly
Pull out, swab with an alcohol swab, bandage it up


Photo from this morning

[jackjackson]

Scheduled a Doc apt today to get some antibiotics, also get bloodwork done to make sure the gear im on is bunk

[stillandbox]

I'd tell him the truth. There is patient doctor confidentality in the US, not sure if you're somewhere else though or what the laws are anywhere else.

And make sure you still get it looked at just because it's getting a little better. Your body can fight infections naturally too, but that doesn't mean that can't come back 10 fold.
Keep us posted!

[jackjackson]

Yes Im going there to be safe anyway.
Read up on some others who ended up getting an abcess and then surgey or out for a few weeks to get puss out.
I prefer it to be safe anyway.
I will tell him the truth and thats why.
There is a Patient/doc confidentially agreement that Im aware of.
Id also prefer to lay it all out so he or she can accurately diagnose it.
I could say B12 but im gonna let them know.
Im in the US
I will keep everyone posted, I will also show him the spot on my ass from 2 weeks ago injection, think a blood vessel was hit.

[chuckt12345]

judging from that pic id say about 25% bro

? dude that is so off,, hes prb right around 15

[jackjackson]

Yeh I really never paid any mind to his comment. I do take peoples comments here and listen but that was way of.
I could post an old pic but im not one to argue over things and make a big rant
I was at about 12-14% after my last natural bulk and Then I did cardio for 2 weeks before cycle to try and clean it up a bit.
Anyways, I think my gear may be bunk and if so I will take a month to shred up a bit, not hard for me at all and Last time I checked my bf it was 14%

When I started my morning weight was 183 (after going piss and what not)
4 weeks today it is 196.2 (after going piss and what not)
So give or take some fat and muscle

[skinnypunk]

That spot from 2 weeks ago would have scared me enough to see a doc right away!

[jackjackson]

I researched it and took my chance on that.
I presumed Oil did not go IM and got stuck subQ, thats is when I did another shot to my delt because I felt it was not properly absorbed.
I checked with a senior mod and went with his advice.
Now its just black and blue fading away. no pain.
I shot my glute alternating of course and this time it swelled up.
I use the same procedure as always.
Did my other delt today and its fine.

[rebel750]

judging from that pic id say about 25% bro

Yeah, you're way off dude. I dropped from 23% to 12ish since Oct 08 and I look fatter than that.

[thaiboxerfr]

judging from that pic id say about 25% bro

theres no way hes 25 percent bf lol 25 percent is super high dude, like, obese status

[jackjackson]

UPDATE!!!!
Just got back from the doc and they said it is Cellulitis

What is cellulitis?

Cellulitis is a skin infection caused by bacteria. Normally, your skin helps protect you from infection. But if you have a cut, sore, or insect bite, bacteria can get into the skin and spread to deeper tissues. If it is not treated with antibiotics, the infection can spread to the blood or lymph nodes. This can be deadly.
Some people can get cellulitis without having a break in the skin. These include older adults and people who have diabetes or a weak immune system. These people are also more likely to develop dangerous problems from cellulitis. And they are more likely to get cellulitis again.
What causes cellulitis?

Cellulitis is caused by bacteria (usually strep or staph). Some people are at risk for infection by other types of bacteria. They include people with weak immune systems and those who handle fish, meat, poultry, or soil without using gloves.
What are the symptoms?

At first, the infected area will be warm, red, swollen, and tender. As the infection spreads, you may have a fever, chills, and swollen glands.
Cellulitis can occur anywhere on the body. In adults, it often occurs on the legs, face, or arms. In children, it is most common on the face or around the anus. An infection on the face could lead to a dangerous eye infection.
See a doctor right away if you have an infected area of skin and:

• The infected area is getting redder, more painful, or larger, or it has red streaks extending from it.
• You have a fever or chills.
• The infected area is on your face or your groin.

How do you get cellulitis?

There are many ways to get cellulitis. You can get it if you have:

• An injury to your skin, such as a cut, surgical wound, burn, or animal or insect bite.
• Skin problems, such as ulcers, eczema, psoriasis, or a fungal infection like athlete's foot.
• Certain medical conditions. These include diabetes, peripheral arterial disease, or a weak immune system.
• Fluid buildup (edema) in the legs or arms.
• Had liposuction to remove excess fat.
• Injected illegal drugs under your skin.

How is it treated?

Doctors use antibiotics to treat cellulitis. If the infection is mild, you may be able to take antibiotic pills at home. If the infection is severe, you may need to be treated in the hospital with antibiotics that go right into your bloodstream.
If your doctor prescribes antibiotics, it is important to take them as directed. Do not stop taking them just because you feel better. You need to take the full course of antibiotics.
It is very important to get treatment right away for cellulitis. If it is not treated, the bacteria can spread quickly through the body and cause sepsis, an extreme response by the body’s defense system. This can be deadly. Cellulitis on the face can spread to the brain and cause a dangerous infection (meningitis). Cellulitis can also cause other serious problems, such as blood clots in the legs (thrombophlebitis).
You are more likely to have these problems if you are an older adult, have a medical condition such as diabetes or peripheral arterial disease, or have a weak immune system. Your chances of the cellulitis coming back may be higher too.
How can you prevent cellulitis?

If you are at risk for cellulitis, you can take steps to help prevent it.

• Take good care of your skin. Keep it clean, and use lotion to prevent drying and cracking.
• Check your feet and legs often. This is especially important if you have diabetes.
• Treat any skin infection, such as athlete’s foot, right away.
• Ask your doctor if you need to take antibiotics on a regular basis to prevent cellulitis.
• If your doctor prescribes medicine, take it just the way your doctor says to.

Treatment Overview
The intent of cellulitis treatment is to decrease the severity of the infection, speed up recovery, relieve pain and other symptoms, heal the skin, and prevent the infection from coming back.

• Antibiotics are usually used to treat cellulitis. If the infection is limited to a small area, has not spread to the bloodstream or lymph system, and you don't have any other medical problems, antibiotics you take by mouth (oral) are effective. If the infection is more widespread, or if you're having a slow recovery on oral antibiotics, antibiotics may be used intravenously (IV) or by injection.
  For cellulitis of the leg or arm, treatment also includes elevating the limb to reduce swelling.
  Treatment for children depends on their age and which part of the body is infected. An antibiotic is usually given intravenously. Facial cellulitis in young children requires immediate treatment and responds well to antibiotics.2
  Treatment sometimes requires a stay in the hospital. This is common if antibiotics must be given intravenously, but it is also considered if you have signs of complications such as a high fever, or if it will be difficult for you to have follow-up care with a health professional.
  Medications used to treat cellulitis
  
  Oral, topical (applied to the skin), or intravenous antibiotics may be used to treat cellulitis. The extent of the infection and its location help determine what type of antibiotic is used.
  
  • Oral antibiotics include penicillin or a similar medication such as dicloxacillin. For people who are allergic to penicillin, a cephalosporin, erythromycin, or vancomycin can be used.
  • Topical antibiotics including mupirocin may be used for children with cellulitis in the area around the anus.3
  • Intravenous antibiotics may include nafcillin, levofloxacin, or cephalosporin.
  
  Preventing a recurrence of cellulitis
  
  Cellulitis tends to recur in people with certain medical conditions that can lead to skin breakdown, such as edema (fluid buildup), fungal or bacterial infections, diabetes, or peripheral arterial disease.
  
  
  • If you have edema, support stockings and good skin hygiene may reduce or eliminate recurrence of cellulitis.4
  • If you develop frequent fungal infections, regular use of antifungal medications may help reduce recurrent cellulitis.
  • If you are considered very high risk for recurring cellulitis, taking preventive antibiotics may help. With preventive antibiotics, most people take a dose of antibiotics every 2 weeks.5

Home Treatment


If you have cellulitis, follow your doctor's instructions for taking medication and for skin care. Other steps to help your recovery and keep cellulitis from coming back include the following:

• Take all of your medication as prescribed.
• Take care of your skin. Any measure that prevents injury to your skin will help to prevent cellulitis.
• Elevate your affected leg or arm to reduce swelling.
• Apply warm compresses to the affected area.
• Use pain relievers as needed.
• Use support stockings to prevent fluid buildup.
• Take steps to treat or prevent fungal infections, such as athlete's foot. If athlete's foot is hard to treat or recurs, ask your doctor about oral antifungal medications. For more information on treating this condition, see the topic Athlete's Foot.
• Take care of your feet, especially if you have diabetes or other conditions that may increase the risk of infection.
• Avoid touching possible sources of infection, such as ill family members and their belongings; raw fish, meat, or poultry; or soil, particularly when you have an area of broken skin.

When you have completed your course of medication, follow up with your doctor to verify that the infection is gone.

I got 2 antibiotics and also am doing an ultra sound soon to rule out an abscess or blood clout.
I also got total and free test measured, was going to get LDL and HDL but needed to fast, cant fast when i east every 3 hours.

anyways they said its the luck of the draw, I explained how i do my injection everytime and I asked why this spot and not the others.
Also showed them my ass bruise and they ok'ed it saying it was what I said it was, just bruised now.
I told them I read up on how an abcess can grow and that is what scared me.
they did say ibprofen and benedryl helps
I told them I take benedryl nightly 50mg.
Let my lesson help anyone else on this forum because I have seen this in a few posts when I did search to find some info
I was very honest and made sure we had a patient/doctor confidentiality agreement before divulging what I did.
They tried saying why and the normal DOC stuff.
I will keep everyone updated after the ultra sound, I will also get my test results back thursday to find if the current gear im on is bunk!

[stillandbox]

Glad to hear you're ok! Remember who said infection first! :-)

Keep us posted and good luck!

[KatsMeow]

I'm glad you went to the doctor keep us updated

[HIITB$]

Always smart to go to the Doc, glad to hear you're ok although i have to admit im a bit surprised they said it was cellulitos but sounds like good Docs taking care of ya anyhow..

keep up updated..

[jackjackson]

Just did my other delt monday and now it is sore and warm.
Guess its the infection overall


Got my 2 antibiotics
Sulfamethoxazole/Trimethoprim x2 ED X 10 Days
Amoxicillin and Clavulanate Potassium x 2 E 12 hours X 10 Days
Starting them now after im done with my meal.

Sulfamethoxazole/Trimethoprim is used for:



Treating infections caused by certain bacteria.
Sulfamethoxazole/Trimethoprim is an antibiotic combination containing a sulfonamide antibiotic. It works by killing sensitive bacteria.

What is amoxicillin and clavulanate potassium?

Amoxicillin is an antibiotic in a group of drugs called penicillins. Amoxicillin fights bacteria in the body.
Clavulanate potassium is a form of clavulanic acid, which is similar to penicillin. Clavulanate potassium fights bacteria that is often resistant to penicillins and other antibiotics.
The combination of amoxicillin and clavulanate potassium is used to treat many different infections caused by bacteria, such as sinusitis, pneumonia, ear infections, bronchitis, urinary tract infections, and infections of the skin.
Amoxicillin and clavulanate potassium may also be used for other purposes not listed in this medication guide.

[stillandbox]

Sounds like the gear isn't safe. I'd stop it and start PCT.

The infection wouldn't have spread from one delt to the other without going across your body. The gear is either fake or not sterile.

Good luck!

[jackjackson]

Thats What im confused about.
My other sites before are fine.
Actually none of this shit started until I started hitting my delts now that i think about it.......
I normally hit the glutes, and they were fine, I really did not pay much attention because it did not bother me the way the delts do.
I pretty much just finished the first vial.
It was only the last 2 shots that this shit started.
I think the gear is bunk But I will find out in 2 days before my next night shot.
If it is I will take a few weeks off and cut up a little.
then start my new test

[jackjackson]

UPDATE!!!!
Just had my ultrasound done on both arms
Since my left one is the same as the right.

Bloodclout= NO
Abcess= NO

Waiting on my testosterone results from bloodwork

Honestly I hope its low so I can cut up for 3-4 weeks and then start my cycle.

I describe how I prepare and inject to them and they said thats very good.
I told them my glutes were fine, its just as soon as I started hitting my delts.
Presumed it is just irritation since that area is not used to foreign objects.
Just the bodys way of responding I guess.

So im all clear, Hope this helps anyone who ever searches for the same problems.
My main fear was an abscess and surgery = be on the shelf for 1-2 months

[jackjackson]

Bloodwork
Testosterone levels free and total review

[scerpico22]

just as an FYI in case you experience another bout with infection symptoms.

I noticed in an earlier post you applied ice...wrong move there...anytime there is a potential infection always always apply a warm compress 20min on 20min off - repeat as many times as possible - this will help colonize the infection and slow down the spreading process - as well as help with the sourness.

also a trick to monitor spreading is by circling the red area with a marker/pen - checking to make sure the red area does not spread outside the circle over a 24 hour period...if so, do as you did - see the doc.

hope all works out for you...

[jackjackson]

just as an FYI in case you experience another bout with infection symptoms.

I noticed in an earlier post you applied ice...wrong move there...anytime there is a potential infection always always apply a warm compress 20min on 20min off - repeat as many times as possible - this will help colonize the infection and slow down the spreading process - as well as help with the sourness.

also a trick to monitor spreading is by circling the red area with a marker/pen - checking to make sure the red area does not spread outside the circle over a 24 hour period...if so, do as you did - see the doc.

hope all works out for you...

Wasnt to sure what to do
thanks for the detailed advice and great ideas on the circling
Live and learn

[jackjackson]

UPDATE
Still taking antibiotics

Redness has gone away.
For now I will stick to glutes unless I need to hit delts.