How do pro's have kids?

**dece870717** · 06-29-2009, 07:52 PM

With most if not all of them being on cycle all the time, how do they remain fertile? Wouldn't their sperm count be extremely low or non-existent? Or do they use various compounds like HCG , Nolva, Clomid or whatever while still being on cycle to boost sperm production for whenever they are trying to conceive a child?

**hankdiesel** · 06-29-2009, 08:06 PM

And why do most still have their hair? Where are all the man boobs? Pros got it good.

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-29-2009, 08:19 PM

1) Freezing sperm

2) HCG use throughout the cycle leaves them with enough swimmers to do the job I would think.

3) Alot of the pros are in their 30's so they have already had kids prior to them reaching Olympia status.

4) Magic

5) Imagine their sex drives on cycle, I am sure banging everyday for 3 months with no protection will lead some results.

**dece870717** · 06-29-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

And why do most still have their hair? Where are all the man boobs? Pros got it good.

I think those are easy questions to answer. A lot do lose hair and thats why they shave their heads and a lot also don't have MPB gene which would account for all the ones still with hair or since they got money they get hair replacement surgerys. And probably all of them have gotten gyno at some point but again they got money so easily just get it removed with gyno surgery.

**ninesecz** · 06-29-2009, 08:22 PM

If you look closely, most of them do not have kids, Dorian Yates, Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman none have kids, Dexter Jackson has kids but had them b4 he started training hard

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-29-2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by dece870717

I think those are easy questions to answer. A lot do lose hair and thats why they shave their heads and a lot also don't have MPB gene which would account for all the ones still with hair or since they got money they get hair replacement surgerys. And probably all of them have gotten gyno at some point but again they got money so easily just get it removed with gyno surgery.

Bro they don't all have "money" as you put it. They have sponsors, only the elite of all IFBB bodybuilders actually make the good dough. If you compare it with other sports and events, its laughable really what they get paid. My buddy was really into bodybuilding in terms of following the sport as a fan and knowing all the lives of Ronnie, Jay, etc. and he told me unless you are at the top you aint really make shit to be bragging about. Sure your sponsors might cover alot of your costs, but you have to be a hell of a bodybuilder to get to that point anyway.

A UFC fighter at the top of his game gets paid up to 500,000+ per match (St. Pierre vs Pena, GSP got 500,000 and Pena got 150,000 even though he lost) with the median being anywhere between 100,000-300,00 for big fighters maybe more since I am not ballsdeep into UFC.

Winning Mr. Olympia you get 250,000, a hummer, and a rolex. Now think about how much money they spend on food/steroids /supplements etc.

**dece870717** · 06-29-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Bro they don't all have "money" as you put it. They have sponsors, only the elite of all IFBB bodybuilders actually make the good dough. If you compare it with other sports and events, its laughable really what they get paid. My buddy was really into bodybuilding and he told me unless you are at the top you aint really make shit to be bragging about. Sure your sponsors might cover alot of your costs, but you have to be a hell of a bodybuilder to get to that point anyway.

A UFC fighter at the top of his game gets paid up to 500,000+ per match (St. Pierre vs Pena, GSP got 500,000 and Pena got 150,000 even though he lost) with the median being anywhere between 100,000-300,00 for big fighters maybe more since I am not ballsdeep into UFC.

Winning Mr. Olympia you get 250,000, a hummer, and a rolex. Now think about how much money they spend on food/steroids/supplements etc.

I wasn't trying to say they were loaded but I'm sure all the pro's have enough money to pay for a gyno surgery or hair replacement.

**Free Will** · 06-29-2009, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Winning Mr. Olympia you get 250,000, a hummer, and a rolex. Now think about how much money they spend on food/steroids/supplements etc.

geez that is crazy ..i mean 250k is a lot of money and the hummer and watch is nice but i think it should be like a mil ....i mean these guys dedicate there lives to this sport and they train hard all year , olympia is only once a year , i believe they should be getting more ...just my 0.02c

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-29-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by dece870717

I wasn't trying to say they were loaded but I'm sure all the pro's have enough money to pay for a gyno surgery or hair replacement.

Hair replacement is a joke, no point in spends thousands of dollars only to continue your androgen use. Trust me the pros got medications for BP and all that good stuff, those that do have MPB will find ways to fight it. They are always several steps ahead of society in terms of what they use, hence why even the former IFBB executive said that advanced testing was hard when these guys were always ahead of us in what they would use.

As for gyno surgery your right, under certain insurance policies their covered or they can get a good deal (I forgot how much surgery is I think 3-6 thousand)

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 06-29-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

If you look closely, most of them do not have kids, Dorian Yates, Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman none have kids, Dexter Jackson has kids but had them b4 he started training hard

I believe he has 2 daughters!

and yes; pros get kids, even while on those monstrous cycles; the human body is a resilient thing... wonderful piece of machinery

**doctorclaus** · 06-29-2009, 10:38 PM

monitored by doctors twice a week, im sure most meals are paid for by sponsors, free gym they make money

**Charlie6** · 06-29-2009, 10:39 PM

i got my girl knocked up when i was on cycle

shit happens

**The Deuce** · 06-29-2009, 11:12 PM

Ok FIRST... MMA fighters get more money because.. ITS MAINSTREAM !! EVERYONE IS ON THE MMA BANDWAGON ...

Which in turns means more money into the pockets of the promoters of the events so hence BIGGER PAYOUTS to the Fighters....

Bodybuilding... As cool as it is.. and as much as I admire it... JUST DOES NOT DRAW EVEN CLOSE TO THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION OF THE MASS PUBLIC AS MMA FIGHTING DOES.. so hence.. LESS OF A PAYOUT...

Both will get sponsers at the top of their game which would put much needed MONEY in their pockets...

But unless BODYBUILDING takes a turn for the BETTER it is more or less going to remain at the same consistent level it is...

I dont think MR. O is a PPV event... I could be wrong but... I dont think I am...

i AGREE BODYBUILDERS SHOULD GET HELLA PAYOUTS... But if it does not draw in the money then well... THEY CANT PAY IT OUT now can they...

Now You got Dana White selling out Arena's making a Hundred Million an per UFC event of COURSE A man like GSP is going to get a HALF MIL... it's a PENNY in the drop of his POCKET.

MMA is In... Bodybuilding Unfortunately is NOT... Sadly to say...

Both take PURE DEDICATION and DETERMINATION and total Submission to their SPORT... Just one is ENTERTAINING... the other is well.. like Male Modeling to an extent... just not profitable as watching TWO DUDES SMASH AND BASH AND CHOKE AND BREAK LIMBS...

NOW...

Back to the OP's Question...

YOU CAN HAVE KIDS ON CYCLE !! ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ON JUST A TEST ONLY CYCLE.. add something like DECA i think I heard somewhere that it is like a MALE CONTRACEPTIVE.... once again this could be misinformation just what I heard take it with a grain of SALT...

But I have 3 kids... And have been using AAS for over 6 YEARS soooo.. lol.... ITS NOT A GUARENTEE.. You want a gaurentee... get snipped !!!

**illwillogical** · 06-29-2009, 11:24 PM

Uh, Dorian Yates does have children.

**Free Will** · 06-29-2009, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by dece870717

With most if not all of them being on cycle all the time, how do they remain fertile? Wouldn't their sperm count be extremely low or non-existent? Or do they use various compounds like HCG, Nolva, Clomid or whatever while still being on cycle to boost sperm production for whenever they are trying to conceive a child?

well they get parents heads and stick them between there legs and crush them ...then they proceed to take the orphans and raise them as there own ....

**wharton** · 06-30-2009, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by dece870717

With most if not all of them being on cycle all the time, how do they remain fertile? Wouldn't their sperm count be extremely low or non-existent? Or do they use various compounds like HCG, Nolva, Clomid or whatever while still being on cycle to boost sperm production for whenever they are trying to conceive a child?

It only takes 1

lol

**GetTheRage** · 06-30-2009, 03:46 AM

A ton of guys get girls prego well on juice alot in this forum even have I am one of them.

**GetTheRage** · 06-30-2009, 03:47 AM

Some studies say test is a form of birth control others say it will make you more fertile

**DSM4Life** · 06-30-2009, 05:16 AM

I have a candle.

**Friend** · 06-30-2009, 05:40 AM

What would an average pro's cycle look like? Ridiculous?

**Matt** · 06-30-2009, 05:47 AM

How do pro's have kids??

I think sex plays a major part...

**Rabid Pit Bull** · 06-30-2009, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

A UFC fighter at the top of his game gets paid up to 500,000+ per match (St. Pierre vs Pena, GSP got 500,000 and Pena got 150,000 even though he lost) with the median being anywhere between 100,000-300,00 for big fighters maybe more since I am not ballsdeep into UFC.
.

Who is Pena?

I know of a Bj Penn......

**Cloe85** · 06-30-2009, 08:04 AM

How do pro's have kids??

is that why Arnold didnt have kids because he was always on cycle and stacking???

**hankdiesel** · 06-30-2009, 12:37 PM

My son was conceived while I was on test/tren cycle.

**Dancer** · 06-30-2009, 01:06 PM

As said before shit happens... There are more kids concieved on cycle for so many on so many diff forums than I care to remember...

Remember kids pull...lol

**ninesecz** · 06-30-2009, 01:30 PM

Did not kniow Yates had kids Sorry!! and as for the money Yeh BB is a low paying sport! MMA compared to BB is like Nascar compared to NHRA Dag Racing Drag racers are lucky if they make $400,000 a year. Nascar guys make that in one weekend. Dale Earnhrdt Jr Made 35+ Million last year with all his endorsements

**alpmaster** · 06-30-2009, 02:04 PM

I think I heard somewhere that whatever the competition money is, is just barely enough to pay for the drugs and the food just for the 12 weeks leading to the show, although I'm sure that's not for an Olympia or IFBB type event.

And seriously, IFBB guys are walking around at 250+lbs of muscle, that takes A LOT of food. I would imagine food is probably the biggest expense of being a bodybuilder.

**WOLFCRAFT** · 06-30-2009, 03:41 PM

If you conceive a child on cycle is that kid more likely to be muscular when he grows up?

NS · 06-30-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by WOLFCRAFT

If you conceive a child on cycle is that kid more likely to be muscular when he grows up?

Yes. FACT.

NS · 06-30-2009, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by WOLFCRAFT

If you conceive a child on cycle is that kid more likely to be muscular when he grows up?

Because only the very strongest sperm will survive whilst on cycle

**meathead320** · 07-06-2009, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by WOLFCRAFT

If you conceive a child on cycle is that kid more likely to be muscular when he grows up?

Real answer? No.

Steroids do not cause genetic mutation. They only cause traits to express themselves if already there.

TO the OP,

I think most are not interested in having kids, as bodybuilding is a selfish lifestyle, and does not make family like easy at all.

Second, can always freeze sperm.

I cruise at about 160mg EW, legal script for it, and I got 9 vails of sperm frozen before hand. If I go sterile, cool.

**vingtor** · 07-06-2009, 08:28 PM

As of moeny though, i once saw Jay Cutler at a max muscle, one that guy is NOT five nine. i am five nine, and he is five eleven(on this website it said he was) now to go out there for a few hours, sign some things, answe some questions, he got about 5k dollars+. so he does that every weekend for ten months. thats alot of money though.

**ninesecz** · 07-06-2009, 09:07 PM

Jay cutler probably has more money than any other BB out There! Even know coleman has a lot of money! He has a $3000.000 Bentley and a $450,000house and some other cars. But back to Cutler. He actually moved to Vegas for BB but another factor was he has a real estate company and he thought vegas would be a good city for him to make money in! I think he makes a couple million a year with his BB career mail order, and all endorsement including his real estate business!

**hankdiesel** · 07-06-2009, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by WOLFCRAFT

If you conceive a child on cycle is that kid more likely to be muscular when he grows up?

My son could stand up at only 3 1/2 months old with only two fingers to support him on his back.

**Immortal Soldier** · 07-06-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

Jay cutler probably has more money than any other BB out There! Even know coleman has a lot of money! He has a $3000.000 Bentley and a $450,000house and some other cars. But back to Cutler. He actually moved to Vegas for BB but another factor was he has a real estate company and he thought vegas would be a good city for him to make money in! I think he makes a couple million a year with his BB career mail order, and all endorsement including his real estate business!

You guys are pointing out biggest names in BB, Jay Cutler and Ronnie. Of course the top names of any sport/hobby will be making some serious change.

But the fact is most of bodybuilders (IFBB qualified) are not making alot of money and have second jobs to pay for their career.

**muffin man** · 07-07-2009, 06:28 PM

i don't think anyone has mentioned genetics yet.

the guys at the top level of the sport of body building are not only on tons of drugs, not only hardcore lifters but i guarantee they all have insane genetics.

if you looked at pics of any of those guys literally before they even ever laid hands on a weight i'm sure you would see above average musculature. i saw a pic of jay cutler at age 14 and he looked like he was about 28 years old and a hardcore power lifter.

there is nobody competing in the olympia who was ever a "regular guy" who got there with lots of hard work etc. they are all guys with above average genetics who also worked their asses off and took a shitload of drugs etc.

i'm sure this helps them out not just on the outside of their bodies but also on the inside with the various body systems.