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    m-drol/p-plex or havoc to CUT?

    ok so i've been cutting for a while now and i wana add some phs for an extra boost, now i know that with p-plex i would probably bloat so whats the best way to take these? was thinking about stacking 2 together...say start with p-plex then finish up with mdrol or start with havoc and finish with mdrol?

    And yes i know its not good stacking the 2 together but i have all the support supps i need and i've used phs before...also my diet is in check and i am losing fat just need to lose it faster.

    The main goal here is to LOSE fat while maintaining/adding a bit of muscle.
    Also i bought gaspari's mitotropin out of curiousity so i'll probably add it in as well.

    What do u guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaNofSteeL View Post
    ok so i've been cutting for a while now and i wana add some phs for an extra boost, now i know that with p-plex i would probably bloat so whats the best way to take these? was thinking about stacking 2 together...say start with p-plex then finish up with mdrol or start with havoc and finish with mdrol?

    And yes i know its not good stacking the 2 together but i have all the support supps i need and i've used phs before...also my diet is in check and i am losing fat just need to lose it faster.

    The main goal here is to LOSE fat while maintaining/adding a bit of muscle.
    Also i bought gaspari's mitotropin out of curiousity so i'll probably add it in as well.

    What do u guys think?

    I WOULDNT STACK ANY OF THEM TOGETHER SINCE THEY ARE ALL METHYLATED...... I wouldnt bother with mdrol when cutting, youll already be fatigued by dieting and mdrol WILL make you feel lethargic. Never used pplex so I cant give you a honest opinion. Havoc/epi would be your best bet. Gives you a good sense of well being and no bloating will occur with least chance of gyno.


    Dose the epi at 30/30/30/40mg and you should be good

    You can keep PCT simple since epi is IMO weak.
    Id say some good liver support and AI's Post Cycle Support

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    Thanks for the reply.

    Yes i know they are methylated but i've been reading a lot of logs about people stacking mdrol/pplex and mdrol/estane so thats y i asked.

    Never mind stacking them..is it possible to cut with ANY of them? also never really felt lethargic on mdrol and went up to 40mg/day.

    Since havoc is less harsh than mdrol i was thinking mdrol first 3 weeks then adding havoc for 2-3 more weeks and lowering mdrol dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaNofSteeL View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    Yes i know they are methylated but i've been reading a lot of logs about people stacking mdrol/pplex and mdrol/estane so thats y i asked.

    Never mind stacking them..is it possible to cut with ANY of them? also never really felt lethargic on mdrol and went up to 40mg/day.
    Absolutely bro. Some people your PH's before entering contest prep.

    Havoc is pretty good for dry gains; IMO, if your diet is well planned out, then cutting; while retaining muscle is not THAT difficult.

    Have fun, and good luck.

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    As said above you can cut with them.

    You say you never got lethargic at 40mgs???
    I took up to 30mgs and was taking in 300+ grams of carbs and I was tired as a mofo... Personally Id stick to Epi as I said earlier

    But mdrol could work if your not effected by that side.
    Your choice bro just make sure to have some good liver support at the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaNofSteeL View Post
    ok so i've been cutting for a while now and i wana add some phs for an extra boost, now i know that with p-plex i would probably bloat so whats the best way to take these? was thinking about stacking 2 together...say start with p-plex then finish up with mdrol or start with havoc and finish with mdrol?

    And yes i know its not good stacking the 2 together but i have all the support supps i need and i've used phs before...also my diet is in check and i am losing fat just need to lose it faster.

    The main goal here is to LOSE fat while maintaining/adding a bit of muscle.
    Also i bought gaspari's mitotropin out of curiousity so i'll probably add it in as well.

    What do u guys think?
    I would only use of the these orals (hdrol if your wanting to cut) and I would use some testosterone along with it.

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