OK What to take before cycle

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 07:11 PM

What can I take before cycle to help protect liver, hair and over all health?
Im 36 195 lift all the time except lately, a little joint pain. I will prob take test e 250 mg 1cc once a week or sustanon 250mg 1 cc once a week with added deca ( knowing sus has deca allready in it a little more cant hurt)5 week max. Im not going for extreme cycle, just hoping to lose some belly fat and add a little more definition. I posted late last night and was a little tired, I hope this is more understandable.

**strength_addict14** · 07-01-2009, 07:16 PM

^^^^ he is right

**GetTheRage** · 07-01-2009, 07:17 PM

Heres a good thread
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=206831
Running test e or deca for 5 weeks is a complete waste.
Deca and teste should be shot 2X a week.
Sust should be shot every other day
Do you have a planned PCT?
I think you can get your goals with diet and training.

**Big** · 07-01-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by jonnsbig

sustanon 250mg 1 cc once a week with added deca( knowing sus has deca allready in it a little more cant hurt)

among many other things, you need to learn about esters. sust doesn't have deca in it, not the way you think.

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 07:27 PM

everyones body reacts differently. I did test e 300 mg or 250 1 cc dont remember and had fantastic results. Im not looking for extreme results just better results. I like this forum but have to say that someone can relate to what im asking. Sources are limited for me and will only be in Mex for a month to 6 weeks and WILL not risk customs.

**GetTheRage** · 07-01-2009, 07:34 PM

You could mail it back to yourself.
You can also run test prop which is fast acting.
Test e won't kick in for a good 5 weeks so whats the point of spending money on something thats gunna do nothing for you.
Do you have a planned PCT?
I'm guessing you don't and if so I wouldn't even bother using AS

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 07:57 PM

PCT Nolvadex or Clomid a few to choose from.

**JinNtonic** · 07-01-2009, 08:42 PM

Mail it back. Why shut your system down for little to no gains.

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 08:53 PM

a little goes a long way for me...

**Big** · 07-01-2009, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by jonnsbig

a little goes a long way for me...

you aren't making any sense. running a long estered compound for 5 weeks is a total waste, do you just not believe us? what does "a little goes a long way for me" have to do with the fact that you would just be wasting gear?

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 09:04 PM

ok well I have alot more reading to doandmaybe i need a short estered compond for fast results. Thanks for all input.

**Big** · 07-01-2009, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by jonnsbig

ok well I have alot more reading to doandmaybe i need a short estered compond for fast results. Thanks for all input.

now you're talking. check out test prop, you need to shoot it every day for best results but a 5 week cycle wouldn't be bad.

**G4R** · 07-01-2009, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by jonnsbig

ok well I have alot more reading to doandmaybe i need a short estered compond for fast results. Thanks for all input.

What type of results are you looking for? And how quickly are you hoping to gain these results?

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 09:19 PM

Not big big results just hopefully something I can keep at least 30% of after all said and done. And losing the stomach is big for me but stomach is not at all out of control just could be more defined. And once again hair loss is a big issue for me and I know I cant have it both ways. Big muscle and no hair loss, just not gonna happen with test but would like to really minimize the hair loss effect. Test prop is readily available in mex not sure but hope so.

**G4R** · 07-01-2009, 09:21 PM

Is MPB common in your family?

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 09:24 PM

Mpb ?

**G4R** · 07-01-2009, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by jonnsbig

Mpb ?

Male Pattern Baldness

**jonnsbig** · 07-01-2009, 09:30 PM

sorry no it does not but I was an idiot 3 years ago and shot some very good UG deca 300 mg 1cc with 250 test e 1 cc for 4 mos( YES I KNOW I HAD NOW CLUE) its a learning process, diet was not the best. But do still have some hair loss around the upper tempels and well lets face it Hair and stomach is exactly what a woman looks at first glance.

**G4R** · 07-01-2009, 09:40 PM

Well, before you start cycling again maybe you should go talk to your doctor about your hair loss, and see if he/she thinks it is falling out at a faster than it should be (I know it shouldn't really be falling out anyways, but see if they think it is something to be concerned about) and then see if they would recommend something like rogain or something like that.

As far as your stomach goes, Diet Diet Diet. I am sure you have been told that already, but that is really your best bet.