Going to start up again. What do you guys think of this cycle?

[snowman4]

Hey guys whats up. I'm 31 and have been working out since i was 20. I played with the juice back in the day but didn't know half the shit I know now. Been doing a lot of research and fully understand PCT and why its important.

I workout 5 to 6 days a week for about 2 hours. Consists of 30 min of cardio and 1 1/2 of weights. I have always been a big boy 6-2, 275lbs. BF% around 14% and strong. I have a great diet which consists of eggs, wheat bread, peanuts, peanut butter, oats, fruits, chicken, fish and red meat once in a while for a treat, a lot of water, protein shakes, and veg's. I would like to try another cycle again and I wanted to know what you thought.

I was reading in the starter pack for newbie's TheMudMan talked about starting anti-estrogens 2 weeks prior to the start of the cycle. Is this a must or does it depend on the person? It seems like TheMudMan knows what he is talking about, I was reading up on some of his posts and other members seem to like the cycles and his info.

My first cycle would be:

Weeks 1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk (1 250mg shot on Monday,1 250mg shot on Thursday)
Weeks 1 - 10 Eq 400mg/wk
Weeks 1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
Weeks 1 – 12 liquidex .25mg ED

Start PCT(clomid) 14 days after last Enan injection 100/50/50/50mg/day

I would also like to throw in 60 to 80 mg of Anavar /day for fat burning/cutting and strength. But when would you guy's take it and for how long??

Thanks a lot for any info and help you can give me.

[c-Z]

Go back to the drawing board...... running nolva and ldex threw out whole cycle?

How long have you been back at the gym?

[diesel405]

I would run the test for 12 weeks and eq for 10. Are you prone to gyno? If not i would save the nolva and ldex incase you need it. Im currently on the same cycle, and have never had a problem with gyno.

[ninesecz]

Nolva and liqua can actually stunt your gains and is not needed for the entire cycle. I would for sure still have them and if you sense gyno use them. I agree with diesel and would say 12 weeks is the right length of time for the testosterone . Not sure if you really need to put the EQ in there! for being the first cycle that you will actually have a good grasp on what to do when the cycle is over, you might be really happy with the results you get from just the test.

[c-Z]

Adex is a good AI to keep on hand. if you want to paly it safe or are prone to gyno. Then start with simply .25mg eod. If you feel a symptom of gyno increase to .25mg ed... Etc.

[wukillabee]

I havent tried EQ yet but most will say anything under 600mg a week is a waste of money bro. If its ur first time with it id do 600mg week, 500mg if ur scared, haha. Agree with all the above as well but id do EQ for 12 weeks and the test enth for 14 weeks if i where u. EQ u gotta run for awhile to see real results.

[snowman4]

Been back at the gym for over 2 years now and I've worked heavy construction my whole life so I would think my muscles are trained enough to begin a cycle. I'm doing as much research on this as I can just going to read, read, read before I stick the pin.

Thanks guys for all your input.

[snowman4]

I did some more reading and found that letrozole is a great AI and if you take it their is no other eason to run any other AI or SERM. Was told to take it 2 weeks prior to cycle to let it stabilize in the blood, can anyone shed some light on this?

If so, whats the dosage of letrozole and for how long?

Should I still consider having Clomid, Nolva and L-dex on hand just in case?

It seems like their is a couple of different ways you can approach GYNO prevention, anyone have a preference from experience? Thx again.

[diesel405]

Adex is a good AI to keep on hand. if you want to paly it safe or are prone to gyno. Then start with simply .25mg eod. If you feel a symptom of gyno increase to .25mg ed... Etc.

^^^^^This is all you need. Ill ask again, are u prone to gyno? Letro is very powerfull, however you are going to kill ur gains and sex drive.