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    First Cycle... Flame on guys :)

    I know that I have read everywhere that you should only use Test for your first cycle, and if you can't handle that add some D-bol. Only issue is that I want this to be the ONLY cycle I ever run in my life. I want a plateau breaker, and since I have been here I have gained 15 pounds. Thank you Ronnie with the STS training. I am now up to 5'9" 173lbs at 9%. I am 22 pushing 23 and I have another 2-3 weeks before I plan on doing this. I will continue with the STS training through the cycle and probably for the rest of my life, and my diet runs pretty close to the ideal. I have been eating 6 meals + 2 protein shakes a day. (protein shake = 1 scoop protein, 1/2cup oats, 2 tbsp peanut butter, 1 1/2 cup whole raw milk). I want to get up to my life time goal of 185 at 7% bf.

    I can go in depth into my diet/workout routine if need be, but I would prefer not having an entire book written on basically what I am doing. Just check out The Slingshot Training System for info on the diet/training.

    Cycle
    Week 1-10 Test Ent 500/wk shots monday morning and thursday night
    week 1-4 d-bol 50 mg/ed
    week 7-12 winny 50 mg/ed
    nolva week 1-15 10mg/ed
    clomid week 12-16 50 mg/ed

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    I think you should drop one of the orals no need to beat your liver up just my 2 cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakie View Post
    I know that I have read everywhere that you should only use Test for your first cycle, and if you can't handle that add some D-bol. Only issue is that I want this to be the ONLY cycle I ever run in my life. I want a plateau breaker, and since I have been here I have gained 15 pounds. Thank you Ronnie with the STS training. I am now up to 5'9" 173lbs at 9%. I am 22 pushing 23 and I have another 2-3 weeks before I plan on doing this. I will continue with the STS training through the cycle and probably for the rest of my life, and my diet runs pretty close to the ideal. I have been eating 6 meals + 2 protein shakes a day. (protein shake = 1 scoop protein, 1/2cup oats, 2 tbsp peanut butter, 1 1/2 cup whole raw milk). I want to get up to my life time goal of 185 at 7% bf.

    I can go in depth into my diet/workout routine if need be, but I would prefer not having an entire book written on basically what I am doing. Just check out The Slingshot Training System for info on the diet/training.

    Cycle
    Week 1-10 Test Ent 500/wk shots monday morning and thursday night
    week 1-4 d-bol 50 mg/ed
    week 7-12 winny 50 mg/ed
    nolva week 1-15 10mg/ed
    clomid week 12-16 50 mg/ed

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    sub-par pct and pct start time is all wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakie View Post
    Cycle
    Week 1-12 Test Ent 500/wk shots monday morning and thursday night
    week 1-4 d-bol 50 mg/ed
    week 9-14 winny 50 mg/ed
    nolva week 1-15 10mg/ed
    Don't run the nolva unless you experience gyno symptoms; it'll only hamper your gains, and is potentially unnecessary if you're not gyno-prone.
    clomid week 14-18 50 mg/ed
    ALSO, add nolvadex (weeks 14 - 18) @ 40/40/20/20


    THE CYCLE (RECAP):

    (WEEKS 1 - 12) TEST-E @ 500MG
    (WEEKS 1 - 4) D-BOL @ 50MG
    (WEEKS 9 - 14) WINSTROL @ 50MG
    (WEEKS 15-19) CLOMID @ 50/50/50/50
    (WEEKS 15-19) NOLVADEX @ 40/40/20/20


    Flame away
    Changes are in bold and red. Read carefully.

    Have a fun cycle. Good luck with your goals.
    Last edited by seriousmass; 07-09-2009 at 09:14 PM.

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    Nolva threwout the whole cycle? Not needed.. Either keep it on hand.. or get an AI. A-dex will do fine at .25mg eod. if needed you can up it to .25mgs.\

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Changes are in bold and red. Read carefully.

    Have a fun cycle. Good luck with your goals.
    if he's running the test 12 weeks, pct would start week 15, not 14. the way you have it listed he's using winny while on pct.

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    Well, I have never had acne... and my body is super low test producer. Thanks for the advice... I want the cut, so drop the dbol ?

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    and what is the added benefit of going 12 weeks on test. I just heard shot your winny up to the week where you start pct. I only want 15-20 lbs super lean mass kept. 12 weeks overkilling that?

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    A good plateau breaker would have been 500mg of test e each week...

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    10 weeks... is too short..... Some people it takes 5 weeks if not longer to kick in...... 12 isnt bad at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    A good plateau breaker would have been 500mg of test e each week...
    yeah this won't be his only cycle. LMAO

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    i highly doubt this will be the ONLY cycle you ever run..im pretty sure everybody here will agree!!!

    may want to use an AI (a-dex or aromasin ) during PCT too..aromasin works wonders for me

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    I know it won't be my only cycle, but I can lay claim to that fact...
    I really want to make it my only one if at all possible though. And is there a need for the ldex/aromasin if i have nolva on hand? what's the added benefit.

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    I would like to bet you $1000 that this will NOT be your one and ONLY cycle !!!!


    hahahahahahah I have heard that SOOOOOO many times on here......

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    Ive only done one cylce and wont do another one!!!

    I have it all laid out....250mg a week for 52 weeks a year with 12 weeks here and there at 500-750mgs that's it pretty much, i'll never do another one!!

    I kid, i kid

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    ^^^ I liked that... Nah, I know this will probably not be my only one, but I can be hopeful that the results will get me where I would like to be and I won't have to worry about another until I am pushing thirty.

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    I agree, no such thing as only one cycle.
    If I received $50 for every time I heard/read that....

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