Trenbolone ethanate cycle

[crametthefrog]

I am going to be starting my first cycle, i plan on running trenbolone 1 cc injections twice a week ethanate, with test propinate 1 cc injections twice a week. and for pct clomid. how long should i run all this for? and any suggestions? thank you

[GetTheRage]

You should do some more research and learn what you are doing.
Thats a poor cycle.
You should run single compounds on a first cycle and tren is definitely not for beginners.
Whats your age/weight/height/bf%/training experience?

[alilswole]

imo if this is your first cycle you should use one aas, like just the test, to see how your body reacts the substance, save the tren for next go round

[alilswole]

beat me to gtr

[ninesecz]

First off you are crazy!! If you were ready to do a cycle of steroids you would know that You Never Ever run Tren Enanthate before doing a cycle of Tren Acetate to make sure you do not have a problem with the sides. You never ever do Tren for your 1st ever cycle!
Do you have any idea how bad the sides can get fro tren? do you realize that some people get sides soo bad that they would almost rather put a bullet in their head than deal with them?
I apologize but this is simply an awful cycle. and I do not understand why you would be running prop for your test but then run Enanthate for your tren? Not a good idea att all IMO!!

[crametthefrog]

I am 18, 5'6, 165 lbs i have been training for two years, this is me trying to do my research. so i should take just a test first then see if my body reacts to them. then tren for my second cycle? if so how many weeks shoudl i be doing any of this for?

[crametthefrog]

body fat 15%

[Hazard]

as has been stated already..... not a good idea. Besides the fact that tren is not for a 1st time user...... besides the fact that you've never run tren and don't know how bad the side effects can be..... you've also got the problem of not injecting your test enough. Prop should be shot every other day at the least.

Hold off on doing this cycle..... do some poking around on this site..... read up.... you'll figure it all out.

~Haz~

[crametthefrog]

I haven't started anythign, i wanna know my shit first

[Hazard]

I am 18, 5'6, 165 lbs i have been training for two years, this is me trying to do my research. so i should take just a test first then see if my body reacts to them. then tren for my second cycle? if so how many weeks shoudl i be doing any of this for?

18 years old? come on man..... your natural testosterone levels are SURGING! Why take extra testosterone and risk not returning to the same levels when you come off? Atleast wait a few years and use that time to optimize your diet and training. When you are ready for aas...... you'll love the results. Right now.... you're only going to get instant gratification if that..... then lose it all when you come off if you dont know what your doing.

~Haz~

[alilswole]

well now that i see that your 18 i think you should cont. naturally without any aas to see just how much potential you have on your own, but if your as strong minded as i am your gonna do it anyways so yes i would do the test, imo i would start with a sust or an enth. rather that a prop but i would def try to drop the bf a bit and focus on diet

[ninesecz]

yeh to be honest man, your body is producing about the equivilent of maybe 300-350mg of testa week if you compared it to injectable steroids ! If you just took the time to work on your diet and got that down pat, you would make some good gains naturally!

[crametthefrog]

Well i have made decent gains over the last two years, But i felt like i wanted to take them, when should i start then? and i have a friend who is a dietition and he helps me with my diet. I plan on leaning out in a month, But when should i start? 22?

[T-MOS]

I am 18, 5'6, 165 lbs i have been training for two years, this is me trying to do my research. so i should take just a test first then see if my body reacts to them. then tren for my second cycle? if so how many weeks shoudl i be doing any of this for?

Is there a special reason you want to shut down your HPTA and risk PERMANENT damage to it along with premature fusing of your growth plates???

any chance you may want to see 5'7" ??

your natural hormones are at their PEAK right now....any steroid you take is going to alter that and possibly lower it forever.

If you get your diet corrected, you will be amazed at how much NATURAL gains you could make before EVER needing steroids ..

Tren is NOT for a beginner. PLEASE reconsider doing this to the ONE and ONLY body you have

[crametthefrog]

i messed up when i said i was 18, i am 19 truning 20 the 1st of sept

[T-MOS]

Well i have made decent gains over the last two years, But i felt like i wanted to take them, when should i start then? and i have a friend who is a dietition and he helps me with my diet. I plan on leaning out in a month, But when should i start? 22?

what you need to understand about "dietitians" is that MOST of them are NOT bodybuilders and don't realize what type of nutritional requirements you need if you want to GAIN 20lbs of muscle in a year...

you would do better getting to OUR diet section here and letting the GURU's here help you . You will make better gains than you would going elsewhere

[stpete]

1) Why would you want to shut down your natural test? You're 18.

2) You have done absolutely no research whatsoever.

3) You need to get to the diet section as a good diet will yield you more gains than any juice will.

Good luck and i hope you come to your senses. Welcome to AR.

[alilswole]

T-MOS knows his shi_ listen to him, give it more time

[stpete]

T-Mos always on the scene. hahahahaha....

[T-MOS]

i messed up when i said i was 18, i am 19 truning 20 the 1st of sept

how does one mess up their age?????

Your growth plates do not fuse NATURALLY until your mid 20's, so at your height, I wouldn't want to RISK premature fusion of them since you could possibly get a little taller in your early 20's

leave the steroids alone until you are 24-25

[crametthefrog]

and my dietitian is a bodybuilder

[alilswole]

like i said ealier get your diet in check go nat for a bit and see how your body reacts, then like T-MOS said 25 and try one aas first def not tren

[T-MOS]

and my dietitian is a bodybuilder

thats a bonus, I would still double check everything with the guys here, just to make sure you are getting the best advice for you !!

[crametthefrog]

What would the best beginner be? sustanon 250? i was attracted to tren because all the claims of gains on *********.com

[T-MOS]

What would the best beginner be? sustanon 250? i was attracted to tren because all the claims of gains on *********.com

Tren is NOT testosterone !!! and again, you don't learn to fly the space shuttle before you learn to fly a little plane

you NEED a single ester test for your first cycle. TRUST US, if it was safe for you to use Tren, why would we tell you NOT TO ???

WHEN its time, you will make great gains from a test ONLY cycle, and I would stay away from Sust until you understand Esters and their release times

there is MORE to this than just popping a pill or sticking a needle in your butt

[alilswole]

i have cycle tren twice and love it but its still a tough one to start with, my first cycle was test c

[crametthefrog]

your first cycle was c? whats c? clembutrol

[T-MOS]

your first cycle was c? whats c? clembutrol

he said Test C

that is Test Cypionate

[crametthefrog]

"WHEN its time, you will make great gains from a test ONLY cycle, and I would stay away from Sust until you understand Esters and their release times"

do you know where there is a good source to read about that?>

[T-MOS]

sure, start here

Understanding Esters, Active-Life and Half-Life

[crametthefrog]

thank you everybody, i appreciate all the imput, i don't think i will be starting anythign anytime soon.