Deca related Gyno?

**GTOne** · 07-23-2009, 12:54 PM

Would like some feedback from the experts:

Current cycle:
500 mg test cyp a week
250 mg Deca a week
50 mgs Winny daily inject (for the last 7 weeks of cycle) - just started this piece a week ago.

I have some left nipple issues right now. I have run Deca before at much higher dosages with no issue, but have had a small issue with higher dosage of test.

I have been taking A Dex 3 times a week (.5 mg per), but now would like to run some Nolva, but I have heard Nolva is bad to run with Deca.

So my question is this, with this low dosage of Deca, and my history, would it be ok to take Nolva for the last 6 weeks of cycle?

Thanks

**TRYER** · 07-23-2009, 01:18 PM

in my expereince its not deca that gives you gyno problems

**peteroy01** · 07-23-2009, 01:21 PM

you can have progesterone related gyno. shouldnt take nolva with a nor19, this can make things worse. get some caber. and move your adex up to .5mg ed and see it that helps

**GTOne** · 07-23-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by peteroy01

you can have progesterone related gyno. shouldnt take nolva with a nor19, this can make things worse. get some caber. and move your adex up to .5mg ed and see it that helps

Thanks for the reply.

Even if it is a low dosage, and never had a problem with it before with Deca ? I am fairly certain that it is not the Deca causing this. That said, if the board agrees that Nolva would be a no no, then I won't go there.

Thanks

**SpanishStallion** · 07-23-2009, 05:07 PM

Have some caber on your hands. Deca gyno is similar ot tren gyno. progesterone issues.

**roserose** · 07-23-2009, 05:11 PM

Why is tamoxifen bad with Deca ? Also doesn't arimidex help wth deca related gyno?

**Hunter** · 07-23-2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by roserose

Why is tamoxifen bad with Deca? Also doesn't arimidex help wth deca related gyno?

Cause nolva will work with estrogen related gyno not progesterone gyno which comes from the use of 19 nor compounds. No armidex wont help becouse it is an a.i(aromatase inhibitor) which stops test from being convereted to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme.

**Alphatier** · 07-23-2009, 06:43 PM

Can I ask you why you're running such a low dose of deca ?

**GTOne** · 07-23-2009, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by lean n' mean

Can I ask you why you're running such a low dose of deca?

More for the therapeutic benefits. Also helps offset the joint issues that come with Winny. Has worked wonderfully so far.

As I have said, though, re the Deca , I do not see this as being the culprit for this. I have run Deca much higher than this with no problem. My fear is there is no way to be absolutely certain. So I was interested in opinions, but it sounds like everyone is jumping on the Deca bandwagon as the culprit - though not sure why.

My question is, if the gyno symptoms are not from the Deca (again, I do not think it is), would it be ok to run Nolvadex ? Or, will that actually help cause Deca related gyno.

Hope that makes sense...

**peteroy01** · 07-23-2009, 10:29 PM

if your sure its not the deca and its estro induced then just up your adex. if that doesnt work then its progesterone induced gyno and use caber. if i were you i would go ahead and get the caber now just in case its not the test.

**WARMachine** · 07-24-2009, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by GTOne

More for the therapeutic benefits. Also helps offset the joint issues that come with Winny. Has worked wonderfully so far.

As I have said, though, re the Deca , I do not see this as being the culprit for this. I have run Deca much higher than this with no problem. My fear is there is no way to be absolutely certain. So I was interested in opinions, but it sounds like everyone is jumping on the Deca bandwagon as the culprit - though not sure why.

My question is, if the gyno symptoms are not from the Deca (again, I do not think it is), would it be ok to run Nolvadex? Or, will that actually help cause Deca related gyno.

Hope that makes sense...

NO! It will cause some serious issues. Read the Caber thread.

**Swifto** · 09-09-2009, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by GTOne

Thanks for the reply.

Even if it is a low dosage, and never had a problem with it before with Deca ? I am fairly certain that it is not the Deca causing this. That said, if the board agrees that Nolva would be a no no, then I won't go there.

Thanks

Originally Posted by peteroy01

you can have progesterone related gyno. shouldnt take nolva with a nor19, this can make things worse. get some caber. and move your adex up to .5mg ed and see it that helps

Originally Posted by WARMachine

NO! It will cause some serious issues. Read the Caber thread.

This is all false.

Tamox will not worsen Deca/Tren related gyno.

It DOES NOT upregulate the progesterone receptor (PgR) in breast tissue. It actually downregulates it in breast tissue. It also downregulates the estrogen receptor (ER).