Cruise and Burst:

[TITANIUM]

OK, there was a post made yesterday , and it got into this subject.
When you cruise, at say 200 mgs test wk,that would in itself inhibit natty test. Now, for those who are on permanent TRT, do you run a PCT plan between cycles?If your not producing enough natty test,or in some cases none at all,would PCT even be beneficial?I know the "NEWBIES" always wanting to start to young and screw up their HPTA.But I'm thinking that cruising on, between cycles, and running PCT , does that get your HPTA up and running?It seems like bridging to me.I know this is a question for PRONE, or T-MOS, since they cruise, and they are Vets.Any clarification on this would further my education, not only for myself, but help me help others down the road.

[D7M]

well, I'm not prone or T-mos

but if you're on TRT you don't do pct. that's counter-intuitive.

if you cruise/blast then you run the risk of being on TRT for life,

how long were you thinking of cruising/blasting?

[peteroy01]

why would you want to run a PCT when your on TRT. PCT is for getting natty test levels back up.

[TITANIUM]

I'm not.Just trying to understand the issues that encompass the situation. And I did not mean that other vets couldn't answer this question, It's just the way I worded it.This forum is a encyclopedia of info.No bull sh*t.Just everyone trying to learn and help each other out.It's great!!

[TITANIUM]

Exactly!Thats why I asked the question.Didn't make sense to me.

[Papa Smurf]

Most of us TRT cruise and blast. If your not on TRT and have natty test output that is in the normal range, then you should never cruise! Do a PCT and wait your total between cycle time (cycle lenght + pct) as normal.

Remember, us TRT guys are "cruising" for the rest of our lives. Nothing fun or great about that at all.

If you have natty test production.................. DO A PCT!

[Dukkit]

if your on TRT then there is no need for PCT
PCT is to bring your natty test levels back after a cycle
while on TRT your natty test is shut down and hence the reason for being on TRT

so no. you dont need to do PCT after a cycle if your on TRT. you just drop back down to your TRT dose

but you should still get blood work and check to see if your other levels are okay. estrogen, prolactin. liver. etc.

now for ppl who Cruise and Blast... they are only doing that for a period of time. in the end most of them plan to come completely off.
so they will end up needing to do a PCT

unless they cruise and blast for so long they mess their HPTA up and need to go on TRT

but thats another story

[TITANIUM]

Thanks.That's what I thought.I just wasn't sure about it.

[marcus300]

if your on TRT then there is no need for PCT
PCT is to bring your natty test levels back after a cycle
while on TRT your natty test is shut down and hence the reason for being on TRT

so no. you dont need to do PCT after a cycle if your on TRT. you just drop back down to your TRT dose

but you should still get blood work and check to see if your other levels are okay. estrogen, prolactin. liver. etc.

now for ppl who Cruise and Blast... they are only doing that for a period of time. in the end most of them plan to come completely off.
so they will end up needing to do a PCT

unless they cruise and blast for so long they mess their HPTA up and need to go on TRT

but thats another story

I was going to comment but reading the above i dont need to, the answer is there^^^^^^^^^^^

[Dukkit]

I was going to comment but reading the above i dont need to, the answer is there^^^^^^^^^^^

lol

glad to make your job easier!

[tboney]

if your on TRT then there is no need for PCT
PCT is to bring your natty test levels back after a cycle
while on TRT your natty test is shut down and hence the reason for being on TRT

so no. you dont need to do PCT after a cycle if your on TRT. you just drop back down to your TRT dose

but you should still get blood work and check to see if your other levels are okay. estrogen, prolactin. liver. etc.

now for ppl who Cruise and Blast... they are only doing that for a period of time. in the end most of them plan to come completely off.
so they will end up needing to do a PCT

unless they cruise and blast for so long they mess their HPTA up and need to go on TRT

but thats another story

In your opinion..how long is to long?? Lets say for a 42 yr old with normal natty test levels while not on a cycle?

[Dukkit]

In your opinion..how long is to long?? Lets say for a 42 yr old with normal natty test levels while not on a cycle?

hmm. kinda relative to the each person.

id say no more then 6 months tops on. including the cruise and blast

but dont take that as gods word

its hard to say. everyones HPTA performs differently.

and gettin over 40 would be a large factor too

id say in general 6 months

[marcus300]

In your opinion..how long is to long?? Lets say for a 42 yr old with normal natty test levels while not on a cycle?

There is no set rule when it comes to damage to your HPTA, some have problems after one course others dont.

[tboney]

I see. Thanks bros!