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    Help Guys Cypionate

    Guys I am 29 6'3 205 and I played college ball back in the day. Been off cycles for awhile and recently was given a bottle of cypionate from the old doc. Its been a very long time since I was on all this stuff and I am wanting help on a good routine to take this.

    I fight here in my home town and drop from 200 to 170 every fight. What i want to know what is a good way to take this to not get to much bigger but use it in a good way. I do alot of cardio/plyo/kick boxing/ and small wieghts

    I appreciate it in advance!

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    did the"ole doc" write you a script for the cyp?

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    Sounds to me that you already have your routine down.I don't think gear is what you need.

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    Yes script! no advice?????

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    I have some advice if u cycle you want be fighting at 170 anymore. lol. Thats got to be a beast cutting 35 pounds for every fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullrutt View Post
    Guys I am 29 6'3 205 and I played college ball back in the day. Been off cycles for awhile and recently was given a bottle of cypionate from the old doc. Its been a very long time since I was on all this stuff and I am wanting help on a good routine to take this.

    I fight here in my home town and drop from 200 to 170 every fight. What i want to know what is a good way to take this to not get to much bigger but use it in a good way. I do alot of cardio/plyo/kick boxing/ and small wieghts

    I appreciate it in advance!
    There is other stuff you could take to get harder/stronger without gaining wieght, but not really with test

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    I dont have any experienced advice, but that has to be a bitch to cut 30 lbs in a short amount of time. Im working on cutting about 15-20 lbs of body fat, but I want to keep it off. If you use the cyp, then your most likely gonna gain weight. you could possibly inject about 200 mgs every 14 days, and keep training the same way. At that rate....it would take 20 weeks to run through a vial.
    If you decide to do it, you could still see your normal test levels drop when its over. I think that would suck if you finished the vial a few weeks before a fight. Im sure that you have drug tests to deal with also.
    Im a huge fight fan, and I think its really cool to see you on here. Good luck with your decision.

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    I would honestly be looking mnore into things like Anavar , Deca , etc.. etc.. you would still need a small dose of test to keep your levels up but those compounds are hardeners and will give you strength without boat! Test will add a bunch of waterweight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by banthar View Post
    I have some advice if u cycle you want be fighting at 170 anymore. lol. Thats got to be a beast cutting 35 pounds for every fight.
    WRONG! You can cut with Test no problem. Im cutting with test/deca as we speak. Diet is the key, Not the compound.

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    im doing test cyp/anavar right now. im up 23 lbs in 6 weeks. 6 weeks to go.

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    cyp is no good bro. im a MMA and jits trainer and i cycle but def not wanna do this while tryin to cut... just gonna make things harder..and cutting 30lbs is not unheard of.. last fight my 205 figthers were walking around at 230 240..about 3 hours before weigh in they are about 218 or so....but cyp is not gonna help u any in mma or any fight. stronger but 90% of the time that is gonna help against a skilled fighter

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    also one bottle aint gonna do much...they dont perscribe aas to be used at levels we take them for ... norm hrt levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullrutt View Post
    Yes script! no advice?????
    My advice..................... Follow the docs orders on the script. If you only have 10ml vial that Im sure is dosed at 200mg per ml then you dont have enough to run any kind of cycle at all, so Im not really sure what you are asking for.

    If the script is to correct a low test problem, then you need to follow what your doc says.
    If he,s just a "good" friend and doesnt mind throwing away a medical license, the tell him to get you 3 more bottles.

    Try running it 500mg a week for 15 weeks. Make sure you have a good PCT in place first.

    Eat right, train hard, and you will gain muscle mass. May have to move up to light heavy in time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Smurf View Post
    WRONG! You can cut with Test no problem. Im cutting with test/deca as we speak. Diet is the key, Not the compound.
    deca for cutting really. what else is in that stack

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    It all depends on your diet.

    Im on 400mg test a week and going into the 16th week. I have increased my bench up to over 315 now and deads from 405 to 495.

    I started at 230 pounds and now I am down to 218-220.

    Perfectly fine to use test to build lean mass while addind alot of strength.

    If my wife didnt know I was on she would just think Im training really hard.

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    Ok alot of good ideas!

    This is what I wanted to know he gave it to me because of low test levels. So my question was is there a better way to use it to gain a little? Or just do it once a month like they say and boost test levels?

    Second I hold 170 class belt and have no problem moving up to 185 class. Not scared at all. I walk around at 200-210 most seasons so cutting is no problem! I plan out my cutting diet and have never been unsuccessful yet on making weight! I even fought at 155 about 8 months back which I started cutting 6 months before the fight and made with no problems! Just being 6'3 looked like a crack head at 155!

    So i appreciate you all's help just my question is should I take once a month the cyp like doc says? Are is there a better way? I also have a Deca so being out of the juice world for so long I just wanted to fresh up my mind on the best way to take! Diet is in check for sure!

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    OK STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now............ The doctor has prescriped you cyp test to correct a low nature test condition. Lets get that fixed FIRST! He may want you to shot every 2 weeks. Tell him you dont mind needles and would like to shot once a week. Max TRT weekly dose is 200mg. Some will say 250 but I anit spliting hairs taday!

    Stay on this for a couple months and get your blood work done to get your levels back up to the normal range.
    Let the doc do his job. You have a REAL problem that can be corrected. Getting your test levels back to normal is gonna help with gettin rid of fat, better focus and energy, strenght and endurance.

    Should make you that much better in the ring as well.

    Fix the problem FIRST!!!!!!!!

    Then worry about milking the system later.


    Papa

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    Thanks Papa Smurf i appreciate it

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