Old enough to know, not enough to care?

**androbolic_09** · 08-07-2009, 12:20 PM

Ok, so one of my friends wants to try a Test/EQ cycle. The thing is, he is no where near genetic limit, but he wants to do it to accelerate his growth. Another thing is that he is 19. I told him that he could end up messing up his body, but he said that he could just to a good PCT and he'll be good as new. He said just test and eq wouldnt shut him down too hard to mess him up. Give me a good word to say to let him chew on, or is it really not that much of a risk. I told him he could stunt his growth, and he doesnt care, as he is 6' anyway. So help me out. Should he since he has different goals in mind? Or not since he could damage himself even with proper PCT? I know quite a bit, but he just thinks he knows better. So any experiences or whatever from people, i need to help him.

**Bigmax** · 08-07-2009, 01:12 PM

Thing is no matter what you say to him if his mind is made up he is going to do it..

**bass** · 08-07-2009, 01:34 PM

i wish i can help you, but i think you have done all you can, and like Bigmax said, his mind is made up. too bad, i was like him until i read, read and read again...

**ninesecz** · 08-07-2009, 02:22 PM

You are not his mother, his girlfriend or his doctor... He I am sure is never in a million years going to listed to what you say!! I would bet money, you could print out a fake study that showed in some 19 year olds the combo of test and eq was found to cause death! and he would still not care!! Do not even bother wasting your time trying to help him... It is his life and as you said he does not care about himself then why should you??

**Swifto** · 08-07-2009, 02:30 PM

I'd he's set on a cycle, suggest Tbol or better Halodrol (desigener steroid ). Var also, although it can cuase HPTA shutdown in some.

Try to steer him away from compounds that aromotase or cause total HPTA cessetion.

He has no business cycling at 19. I did it and regret it.

**BJJ** · 08-07-2009, 02:33 PM

Tell him he can do it, basically it is up to him...

But, there is always a but, ask him first to set a consultation with an endocrinologist and a nephrologist, explaining both of them what he is about to do.
Be sure he is going to see these doctors and the only way is to be with.

Then, after having told what they had to say, if he still wants to try a cycle being 19yo, you can be sure on one thing, You did your best and now it is really up to him!

Good Luck

**c-Z** · 08-07-2009, 03:26 PM

Tell him he is an asshole. And have fun fusing them plates. as well as shutting down his already high testosterone level... hes at peak right now naturally. why shut it down??

**vaders4** · 08-07-2009, 03:30 PM

I'm old enough to be sick of these threads already.

You're friend is an idiot. Learn from his mistakes.

**c-Z** · 08-07-2009, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by vaders4

I'm old enough to be sick of these threads already.

You're friend is an idiot. Learn from his mistakes.

you have been apart of this forum 12 days how sick can you be?

**vaders4** · 08-07-2009, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

you have been apart of this forum 12 days how sick can you be?

I've been lurking for about a year.

**c-Z** · 08-07-2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by vaders4

I've been lurking for about a year.

I bet..... Sure does get old though.... Everyone has a friend of a friend and this and that.

**ninesecz** · 08-07-2009, 07:09 PM

I guess this is some of the reason the invented TRT ? i can not talk I was unable to do proper pct because of financial and law issues after my cycle but i guess it was not from lack of knowledge! i knew I needed it just could not get it! I was pretty shure using every penny to stay out of jail was a little more important than test levels! but that is another story

**androbolic_09** · 08-07-2009, 08:02 PM

^^ hell id rather be in jail then have small balll.....but yeah, i guess all i can do is make sure he does it right, and minimize the damage. thanks for the help