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    2nd cycle critique

    Stats:

    -23 years old
    -5 10
    -210 lbs
    -low body fat (im not gonna throw some bs number out there, but i have good vascularity in my lats and i have a solid 6 pack)
    -training since i was in high school
    -play rugby

    Training

    -primarily centered around olympic lifts and compound movements. sports specific. but i want to look good too of course!!

    Experience

    recently completed my first cycle of

    test e 600mg/week for 15 weeks

    gained about 20 solid lbs and have kept most of it!

    have also completed a few designer cycles unfortunately i have broken my hand and my collarbone in the last 2 years so i didnt hold on to much of the gains from them


    2nd cycle

    week 1-15 test e 500 mg/ week
    week 1-15 QV deca 400 mg/ week
    week 1-3 Anadrol 50-100mg ed (not sure)
    week 13-17 oral Halotestin @ 40- 80 mg ed (not sure)
    i will see how my body reacts with the orals

    also might use hcg @ 500 iu for 5 days around week 8 and will certainly use it a week before pct starts with 20mg of nolva ed

    pct will be the usual clomid/nolva

    goals

    gain quality mass, increase lifts substantially, work on my weaknesses (calves, forearms, middle back etc)


    please give me any feedback, suggestions, comments etc!!

    thanks!!

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    I finished my second cycle which consisted of test/deca after a first cycle of test and it was an excellent cycle, great results in my opinion, I recommend it.

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    stop the deca about 2 weeks before you stop the test or your gonna have a harder time bouncin back your natty test levels on PCT. and you cant use nolva with a 19nor(deca) steroid use a AI like liquidex or sumthin while ur on if ur worried about sides. .nolva can actually created more estrogenic sides while useing deca. u can use it in the PCT but not on

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    Stats:

    -23 years old
    -5 10
    -210 lbs
    -low body fat (im not gonna throw some bs number out there, but i have good vascularity in my lats and i have a solid 6 pack)
    -training since i was in high school
    -play rugby

    Training

    -primarily centered around olympic lifts and compound movements. sports specific. but i want to look good too of course!!

    Experience

    recently completed my first cycle of

    test e 600mg/week for 15 weeks

    gained about 20 solid lbs and have kept most of it!

    have also completed a few designer cycles unfortunately i have broken my hand and my collarbone in the last 2 years so i didnt hold on to much of the gains from them


    2nd cycle

    week 1-15 test e 500 mg/ week
    week 1-15 QV deca 400 mg/ week
    week 1-3 Anadrol 50-100mg ed (not sure)
    week 13-17 oral Halotestin @ 40- 80 mg ed (not sure)
    i will see how my body reacts with the orals

    also might use hcg @ 500 iu for 5 days around week 8 and will certainly use it a week before pct starts with 20mg of nolva ed

    pct will be the usual clomid/nolva

    goals

    gain quality mass, increase lifts substantially, work on my weaknesses (calves, forearms, middle back etc)


    please give me any feedback, suggestions, comments etc!!

    thanks!!

    12
    Arimidex 0.5mg/ED or EOD. Or Aromasin 10mg/ED or EOD.

    Caber on hand.

    HCG 250ius 2-3 times a week.

    Stop Deca 1 week before Test Enan.

    3 weeks isnt long enough as a kickstart IMHO. I like to run orals for 6-8 weeks at a lower dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Arimidex 0.5mg/ED or EOD. Or Aromasin 10mg/ED or EOD.

    Caber on hand.

    HCG 250ius 2-3 times a week.

    Stop Deca 1 week before Test Enan.

    3 weeks isnt long enough as a kickstart IMHO. I like to run orals for 6-8 weeks at a lower dose.
    thanks for your reply, i will have a dex and caber on hand. i will try to hold off on the a dex till bloat really becomes an issue, do u agree? and ill prob end up running the oral the way you said. when should i start using the hcg?

    thanks mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve View Post
    thanks for your reply, i will have a dex and caber on hand. i will try to hold off on the a dex till bloat really becomes an issue, do u agree? and ill prob end up running the oral the way you said. when should i start using the hcg ?

    thanks mate
    I'd run the AI all the way through, dropping it a few days before PCT begins.

    HCG all the way through, dropping it 1-2 days proir to PCT IMHO.

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    thanks man

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