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    Question cycle help

    Hey guys hrere it goes

    age:30
    h:5,9
    w:89kg
    BF:13-15%

    ok i'm looking to start my 2nd cycle soon i'm looking to run as follows

    week 1-12 sust 250 250mg eod
    week 6-14 stanazol 50mg eod maybe ed

    pct is nolva and clomid starting 28 days after last sust shot. What i'm really looking for is how and where can i put the clen i got into the mix any help bagging will be taken on board as it's only my 2nd cycle thanks heaps guys go nuts

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    winny only has a half life of about 8 hours. it needs to be taken EVERYDAY, not EOD

    clen can be used during your PCT

    PCT starts 18 days after last Sust shot, NOT 28 days

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    Hey T-MOS thanks mate do you think i should take some clen before my cycle to drop a bit more BF or keep eating lean until that time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by !!!ZeuS!!! View Post
    Hey T-MOS thanks mate do you think i should take some clen before my cycle to drop a bit more BF or keep eating lean until that time?
    I don't mean to butt in here... but Zeus, you could just use the clen throughout your cycle. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off protocol for all 14 weeks. I always find it's good to use clen + test, just to ensure absolutely ALL preservation of muscle... especially too when you include T3 into the mix.

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    if thats you in the avy there, I think you are fine to start the cycle and save the clen for PCT

    you don't look 15% to me

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    do you do kickboxing?

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    Sweet i thought i was about 15 seeing those ripped dudes talking about being 9's and 10's thanks for the info T-mos and if your talking to me pumper yes i do i'm about to join a MMA crew i've been doing BJJ for a while

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    thats awesome, i do kickboxing mma and ju jitsu and compete so mabey il see you around sometime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by !!!ZeuS!!! View Post
    Hey guys hrere it goes

    age:30
    h:5,9
    w:89kg
    BF:13-15%

    ok i'm looking to start my 2nd cycle soon i'm looking to run as follows

    week 1-12 sust 250 250mg eod
    week 6-14 stanazol 50mg eod maybe ed

    pct is nolva and clomid starting 28 days after last sust shot. What i'm really looking for is how and where can i put the clen i got into the mix any help bagging will be taken on board as it's only my 2nd cycle thanks heaps guys go nuts
    i don't like the 9 weeks of winny, it's mg for mg one of the more hepatotoxic steroids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i don't like the 9 weeks of winny, it's mg for mg one of the more hepatotoxic steroids
    And joint issues especially as you get into your 30s and cardio is part of your ED training.

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    Hey PHATE hows things not sure if you remember me but you helped me with my first test only cycle and diet your advice worked a treat. about the winny i've been reading alot of people have used it for upto 12 weeks with no complications would it be better to drop it back to 6 to 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by !!!ZeuS!!! View Post
    Hey PHATE hows things not sure if you remember me but you helped me with my first test only cycle and diet your advice worked a treat. about the winny i've been reading alot of people have used it for upto 12 weeks with no complications would it be better to drop it back to 6 to 7
    i would, but that's your call, it can dry out joints as dancer said and since you do BJJ that could affect your training, what are you using it for?

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    MMA oral of choice halo.

    My oral of choice also so I am biased.

    But, you have to go through your process and decide. I am not sure what the your logic behind winny is?

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    lean right out trying to get that rock hard look for summer looking to pick up more than waves at the beach

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    Halo, F winny

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