What's the deal with different testosterone esters?

[KimboHalfSlice]

I haven't been in the steroids game for very long, but I'm trying to learn as much as I can.

I realise that you can get testosterone in the form of different esters, such a propionate , enanthate , decanoate.

From what I understand, the only difference between these esters is the amount of time it takes for them to convert to pure testosterone in your body.

If you take a "fast-acting" ester such as propionate, then you'd have to inject small amounts very frequently because:
a) It will become testosterone very quickly
b) The testosterone will be eradicated from your body quickly

If you take a "longer-acting" ester such as enanthate, then you can inject larger amounts less frequently because:
a) It becomes testosterone at a slower rate, it's like a slow release mechanism
b) Since it becomes testosterone slower, the testosterone will be eradicated slower and so in effect it lasts longer.

Have I got that much right?

Well here's the part I don't understand: I've heard people say that different esters have differents effects. For instance, I've heard people say that longer esters produce more bloat and water retention.

I'm currently on my first cycle of testosterone only. For the first 10 weeks I did Sustanon 250. I would have continued on with Sustanon 250 but the supply ran out, so I switched to Testoviron 250 which contains just Testosterone Enanthate .

I've noticed on this forum that there seems to be quite a liking for Testosterone Enanthate, and I wonder why that is? If anything, I thought Sustanon 250 would get all the popularity.

I'm pretty sure most people here would say that the aim is to bring your testosterone level high and to keep it steady at that height for the duration of your cycle. I've met one guy however who told me he would take a triple-shot of Sustanon once every 6 days, meaning his testosterone level would go through the roof, and would then plummet over the next 6 days. He said he got good results from that... however this is the same retard who was giving me injections without wiping with alcohol and without aspirating so I tend not to put much weight in what he says.

But anyway, what's the deal with different esters? Is Enanthate the most popular?

[Hazard]

I'd say you pretty much got it..... LOL

Enanthate seem to be the most popular because you only have to inject it twice a week. Blood levels will stay fairly stable....no worries. Cypionate is a slightly longer esther than enanthate but essentially the same.

When using sustanon .... it's better utilized shot every day or EOD otherwise the levels from the propionate esther are like a rollercoaster..... especially if you shoot it once a week LOL in which case they're all like a rollercoaster.

Also, different esthers have different weights. I'm no expert on this..... so maybe someone else can help out here..... but from what I understand - propionate's esther is lighter.... and you get more testosterone . The longer the esther the heavier it is..... I'm going to stop here LOL because i'm not 100% sure on esther weights and the conversion in your blood..... can anyone else help here?

~Haz~

[arenawarrior]

Your correct haz.. taken from Test P profile


hemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg

Here, we´re comparing Testosterone with no ester (suspension) with Test Propionate and Cypionate (basically the longest vs. shortest esters available with testosterone).

So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you´ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone! The advantage to longer esters is that they need to be injected less frequently (test prop needs to be injected every other day while you can shoot test cyp once a week). The disadvantage to long estered steroids is that they contain less actual steroid. Anecdotally, however, most people from Steroid.com and other discussion boards who have tried differing esters on their various cycles agree: Testosterone Propionate causes the least side effects and the least bloating. For this reason, it´s often the testosterone of choice in cutting cycles. On a personal note, it´s the only form of testosterone I ever use, and it´s the only one most women will use, due to the previously mentioned factors (as well as it´s ability to clear your body quickly upon cessation in the case of side effects). Testosterone levels when you´re using injectable testosterone propionate begin to decline sharply after the second day of use(5). Obviously this is not the drug of choice for those who are squeamish about injections, you´ll be shooting this stuff every other day at least.

[ghettoboyd]

just wanted to throw out there that test dosnt convert to test because.....it already is test...otherwise youve got it....

[gymnerd]

Sounds close enough. I read the title with a Jerry Seinfeld voice LOL whats the deal with all these test esters I mean are they trying to start their own club or something LOL sorry.

[Alphatier]

Sounds close enough. I read the title with a Jerry Seinfeld voice LOL whats the deal with all these test esters I mean are they trying to start their own club or something LOL sorry.

[gymnerd]

Ahhh, your just mean.

[louiscypher]

This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you´ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone! .

So if one wants an actual dosage for a cycle one should take into account the weight of the esters? Lets ay we want 1000 mg/ wk actual test. If we use prop we want 83.72 * X = 1000 , X = 1000/ 83.72, X = 11.94 ml @ 100 mg/ ml per week. For cyp it would be 1000/ 69.9 = 14.3 ml @ 100mg/ ml per week. That's something to consider!

[Alphatier]

Ahhh, your just mean.

Hahahah nice one bro(if what you said is what I think it is).

[shafts basson]

Sounds close enough. I read the title with a Jerry Seinfeld voice LOL whats the deal with all these test esters I mean are they trying to start their own club or something LOL sorry.

haha i laughed

[Hazard]

Thanks for the help AW

~Haz~