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    All messed up now...help me...

    I was going to do

    Testosterone Cyp- 500mgs weeks 1-12
    DECA - 400mgs weeks 1-12
    Dianabol - 25mgs weeks 1-4
    Arimidex - 0.5mgs a day weeks 1-12

    I get my gear from a friend and I placed my order with him.

    He said I should not be doing this.
    Instead he recommended that I do

    TEST PROP
    TREN
    D BOL

    He said the deca will **** me up and i should do the tren instead.
    He also said I should only take HCG for a pct.

    This is my second cycle, what should i do???

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    What did you do the first cycle and what did he mean by that with the deca I know plenty of people who use it just dont have high bf because its a beast for water

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    Sounds like he's just trying to sell you what he's got.

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    first cycle was just a test blend for 12 weeks and did nolva for pct
    he said the deca would mess up my dick and its not worth the chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Sounds like he's just trying to sell you what he's got.
    he said he can get me the other gear but i should take that gear

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    Tren would be worse imo lol..

    2nd cycle id stick to test and dbol and id run the dbol at 40/50mgs ed......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Tren would be worse imo lol..

    2nd cycle id stick to test and dbol and id run the dbol at 40/50mgs ed......
    Yeah I wouldnt even mess with either honestly Test and Dbol you would see good gains but I'm not to sure about the deca messing up your sex drive if you have a test base

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Tren would be worse imo lol..

    2nd cycle id stick to test and dbol and id run the dbol at 40/50mgs ed......

    finally/ after all my previous threads being ansewred soo poorly I finally get a straight ansewr

    I had considered doing just that cycle after he told me what he thought I should do.

    what type of test should i take if im just doing test and dbol ?

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    Btw his pct advice is terrible, he doesnt know what he's talking about, tell him to come on here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    finally/ after all my previous threads being ansewred soo poorly I finally get a straight ansewr

    I had considered doing just that cycle after he told me what he thought I should do.

    what type of test should i take if im just doing test and dbol?
    Id stick with the test c, less injections...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Id stick with the test c, less injections...
    amount of injections dont bother me
    I actually look forward to each injection

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    Deca is awesome for someone that has aches . It does cause some water retention , but nothing that made me feel bloated . Personally my favorite compound , but I'm old .

    Your friend may only have the prop , I believe its about the best test from what they say .
    Personally I like long esters like Cyp . Never tried tren , but wouldn't mind at some point .


    Good luck .

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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    amount of injections dont bother me
    I actually look forward to each injection
    IMO if you like injections, and are looking for a quality cycle, keep it simple:

    Test Prop (weeks 1 - 10) @ 500mg each week
    D-bol (weeks 1 - 4) @ 40 - 50mg each day

    If you're interested in trying deca for bulking... then you may want to consider NPP.. it is like fast acting deca (can be shot ED / EOD with the prop).

    Unlike deca is clears your system in a matter of days upon secession.. unlike deca that can keep you shutdown for months and months, even after a PCT (doesn't f*ck with your dick - haha.)

    Test Prop (weeks 1 - 10) @ 500mg
    NPP (weeks 1 - 9) @ 400mg

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    I've never had a problem with deca and sexual function nor has anyone i've ever talked to although i hear about it every time someone brings it up on the computer. You will be fine with cyp especially if your taking d-bol. I like prop so i won't argue with anyone that it's good stuff but you'll get good results from the cycle you've outlined i would go with it if that's what you want although personally i'd probably take 40mg of d-bol instead of 25. This is only you're second cycle so you have a lot to learn about your body. This game is all about trial and error until you find what compounds your body responds to best.

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    i agree with test and dbol only...also i thought HCG during pct was bad? (could be wrong) i thought i read that it actually counter acts the effects of nolva and should be used only during cycle?

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    great info
    thanks to everyone for giving some solid opinions!!

    i am cosidering just test prop(weeks 1-12) and dbol (weeks 1-4)
    with clomid and nolva for post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dont wanna be old View Post
    *You don't always get what you want , but you get what you need * Mick Jager

    Looks like ol' Mick needs some Test and Dbol ...

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