Scammed or just UK custums?

[Meshy]

I'm a first time user and think I may have made a big mistake in choosing my source. I've placed an order for my first cycle which I was hoping to have started by now, but it has now been 1 month since I placed the order and no sign of delivery. Unfortunately I placed my order before finding this site and after reading alot of posts on scammers I'm starting to think I may have been scammed....

I ordered some Dbol , Stanozolol and some Nolvadex from the same site, which seemed to be legit after reading other custumer reviews and claimed to have "EU 100% delivery success". I placed my order on the 22nd July and recieved confirmation that it had been sent on the 27th July, with a wait time of 10 - 15 working days. 10 working days pass and no delivery so I e-mail to find out if I can get a tracking number. I'm told it's been sent standard post so no tracking number, which starts the alarm bells ringing, but I'm new to this so think maybe the guy doesn't want to walk into a post office. So i patiently wait for 15 working days and still no sign of the package. I contact the guy again and he explains that there was a problem at the post office and that he will resend the order on the 17th August. By this point I'm growing spectical that I will every see the package or my money but maybe UK custums seized the original package.


What do you guys think, have I been scammed? Anyone with experience of delivery into the UK from with-in the EU?

[sigman roid]

Why didnt you get your gear from the uk?

If customs had your gear they would have sent you a notice of seizure,if your doing your first cycle please tell me what you ordered wasnt just what you were gonna use??,Imo it looks like you have been scammed i could be wrong but it seems a long time to wait for you gear,What part of the uk you from??

[diesel405]

I ordered from a site like that once and it took 6 months to arrive. Funny thing was he used the same excuse about the post office. The only pull i had was i got the source thru a site like this only they gave a few "good" sources, so i bashed the guy in open forums untill they banned me from the site. The source didnt know i was banned so i just kept telling him i would continue bashing untill i recieved my product. I finally got in 6 months later.

[Meshy]

Why didnt you get your gear from the uk?

If customs had your gear they would have sent you a notice of seizure,if your doing your first cycle please tell me what you ordered wasnt just what you were gonna use??,Imo it looks like you have been scammed i could be wrong but it seems a long time to wait for you gear,What part of the uk you from??

I'm from Milton Keynes, right near London... Would have bought from UK but don't know a legitimate source and out of all the sites I looked at, the one I ordered from seemed like the real deal (plus I only just found this site)...

Starting off using only orals, just to point that out.Realise I haven't ordered anything for Liver support or Cholesterol Support as I'm only looking to start on a moderate cycle. Will be ordering PCT but wanted to start my cycle first to see if I had sourced the real deal.

As I say this is my first cycle and all very new to me... I've only ever cycled with prohormones before. I'm learning alot from this site but if you can give me any advice before I start my first cycle (if I ever recieve it) it would be much appreciated

[diesel405]

orals only? no test? bad bad bad
whats your stats bro?

[sigman roid]

As said first lets get some stats
Age?
weight?
height?
body fat%
years training?

[Meshy]

29 years old, 5' 9", 147lbs, 12% BF, slim muscular build...Weight training since the age of 19...

Main reason I wanna start my first cycle is I've bean plateauing for the last few years and no matter what I try I can't lift heavier then what I'm currently lifting.

[diesel405]

So you plan on running d bol and winnie without test? No way bro. And i would be willing to bet your diet needs improvement at 147lbs. I think you made a good decision joining this site, now use it and do some research.

[sigman roid]

Bro at 5'9 and 147lbs your really light i think this has more to do with your diet you should be able to reach 180lbs naturally, diet is the key to growing not gear trust me,you could use gear but if your diet and training is not in check your wasting your time.
Also a oral only cycle is a bad idea and 1 i would not recommend for you

[Meshy]

Aim to eat over 3000 calories daily with 250g protein, but like i say i am a very slim build... Plus i do alot of cycling round town. Will take your advice on board and post my full diet and workout on the correct board and see what advice I can get.

Thanks guys

[diesel405]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516 This will straighten you right out. Best video i have ever seen. check it out.

[marcus300]

UK customs will write to you if they have seized your gear, normally they only seize goods if they think your supplying or to much gear for personal use

[JiGGaMaN]

if you had pm privileges i would be able to explain to you exactly whats going on. i know for certain on this one too. just cant say it in public...

[Bio-boosted]

As far as i'm aware, if ordering from within the EU there are no postal customs.
Remember WE are allowed to import legally.
One more thing mate, 14 days is a sh!t delivery time sure - 6 working days tops for EU2EU, but sometimes there may be a chain involved. I'd be patient. I've just had to get my source to resend, took 6 weeks.

[JiGGaMaN]

As far as i'm aware, if ordering from within the EU there are no postal customs.
Remember WE are allowed to import legally.
One more thing mate, 14 days is a sh!t delivery time sure - 6 working days tops for EU2EU, but sometimes there may be a chain involved. I'd be patient. I've just had to get my source to resend, took 6 weeks.

there is no customs in UK lol. seriously, i already know what the problem is and whats going on. it would involve me naming names but the case is closed. op must pm me when he has enough posts and i can tell him.

[Bio-boosted]

there is no customs in UK lol. seriously, i already know what the problem is and whats going on. it would involve me naming names but the case is closed. op must pm me when he has enough posts and i can tell him.

For Clarification:-
Importing from outside the EU will leave you liable to pay 12-13% tax duty, if it is stopped by UK customs and excise. Small enough packages are generally overlooked, lager packs and crates are something else. *

Importing alcohol and tobacco from within the EU are subject to taxation (the UK is raped for these prices, big £ for the Gov), again - these tend to be vans full of smokes and booze. *
Goods bought from within the EU (to UK) are not subject to Customs Duty or Importation Tax. http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...yType=document
Couple these facts with, importation of anabolics is not illegal...

*Yes, there are Customs Officers. Their job to to stop these things. But it isn't quite like the Mexican Boarder Patrol.

Fair play tho Jiggaman, you got the prob covered ok

[Meshy]

Favourited...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516 This will straighten you right out. Best video i have ever seen. check it out.

That's cleared up a few misconceptions I had about UK custums and import laws in this country, after reading about Australian and Canadian custums

if you had pm privileges i would be able to explain to you exactly whats going on. i know for certain on this one too. just cant say it in public...

Hopefully they arrive before i get pm privileges, if not i've only got 92 more posts and 43 more days to go lol

[Bio-boosted]

Get postin!!

[JiGGaMaN]

you can do it, its really easy. think of it as a learning and interacting activity.

[Matt]

UK customs would not for any reason seize your gear, fact..

You should never need to order from outside the UK...

[Ironnips]

I'm a first time user and think I may have made a big mistake in choosing my source. I've placed an order for my first cycle which I was hoping to have started by now, but it has now been 1 month since I placed the order and no sign of delivery. Unfortunately I placed my order before finding this site and after reading alot of posts on scammers I'm starting to think I may have been scammed....

I ordered some Dbol , Stanozolol and some Nolvadex from the same site, which seemed to be legit after reading other custumer reviews and claimed to have "EU 100% delivery success". I placed my order on the 22nd July and recieved confirmation that it had been sent on the 27th July, with a wait time of 10 - 15 working days. 10 working days pass and no delivery so I e-mail to find out if I can get a tracking number. I'm told it's been sent standard post so no tracking number, which starts the alarm bells ringing, but I'm new to this so think maybe the guy doesn't want to walk into a post office. So i patiently wait for 15 working days and still no sign of the package. I contact the guy again and he explains that there was a problem at the post office and that he will resend the order on the 17th August. By this point I'm growing spectical that I will every see the package or my money but maybe UK custums seized the original package.


What do you guys think, have I been scammed? Anyone with experience of delivery into the UK from with-in the EU?

Did you send it Western Union?

[Meshy]

Did you send it Western Union?

Paid via credit card... which i now know is a big NO NO, thanks to this site, but i thought if i paid via credit card i would have some come back if the product didn't arrive. However i'm now slightly confused as one custumer review on the site is stating that credit card can be used with western union payment method. So i'm unsure if it was a regular cc tranaction or if i did pay via western union?

Jiggaman knows what the deal is anyway, so if the gear don't turn up soon atleast i'll be able to get some answers