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    Smile 1st cycle please suggest ideas to fix if needed.

    First cycle, been working out for some time on and off for the past so many years.
    Just putting it out there for you guys to critique. Cheers.

    Stats:
    Height: 168cm I think 5'5 or 5'6
    Weight: 76kg or 167 pounds
    Age: 23
    BF: Estimate around 16-18%

    Cycle:
    Weeks 1-12 Test Prop 300mg EOD
    Weeks 1-10 Boldenone 200mg once a week
    Optional
    Weeks 2-12
    Winstrol (stana) Not sure yet.. probably won't. I'm guessing the two combinations will build some lean muscle. So probably won't need stana

    Swifto's recent post has made me want to include HCG as well
    Probably start in week 2-12 with 250iu twice a week (if i remembered the post correctly)
    Is it important to run AI during this kind of cycle? or using nolva during the cycle aide off the sides? or is armidex a whole lot better for this? cheers

    PCT:
    Nolva and Clomid gonna have to check the figures

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    exactly how many years have you been working out?

    first cycle you'd probably be better off with a longer ester, to avoid the frequent pins.

    And you'll definitely want to lower that test dose, bro.

    you don't need the other compounds for your first run, just test.

    BF is a bit on the high side for cycling, might want to cut/prime first before you pin.

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    how about diet down to 12 % BF before using any AAS.

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    there is no way you need to run you test at 300mg EOD!! that ends up being over 1000mg a week! Why do you think you need such a high dose?

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    mate, i reckon you should get that bf % down first. 200mg/wk bold isn't really enough (i would say 400mg/wk at least), and try and run it for 12 weeks too. 300mg prop eod is too high imo also!

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    300mg everyother day of propionate is a bit much. Try 100mg/EOD. I'd drop the boldenone for your first run plus it's underdosed as hell. Maybe try an oral if you are inclined to do a kickstart (dbol or anavar ). HCG during cycle is fine at that dose and yeah arimidex is better for estrogen control during cycle.

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    i meant 300mg over the week.. sorry.. mistype 100mg per injection 3x week.. yeah. I probably do have to cut down the fat.
    started working out a fair bit when i was 16-19 pretty much 3-4 times a week. 20-21 I got lazy. Past 3-4 months I've been attending the gym regularly. At the moment I'm trying to gain as much strength as I can before I go on AAS, but I did look into the BF and may have to cut that down too.
    Last edited by jase123; 09-03-2009 at 11:59 AM.

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    Id go with 50mg Ed for the prop... u get more stable blood levels and better results (IMO)

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