Winter Bulk cycle look ok?

**M302_Imola** · 09-09-2009, 09:48 AM

4 previous cycles, compounds ran: Test E, Test C, Test Prop, B-bol, Oral Winstrol , and Tren E
stats: 5'-10" 190 lbs @ 10% BF (currently...have weighed 213 lbs @ 15% BF), 29 yrs. old
This will be my 1st time running Deca , T-bol, and T3. This will also be my 1st attempt at front loading.

Proposed cycle:
week 1 Test C @ 1000mg/week (Front loading, 2 shots @ 500mg each)
Weeks 2-12 Test C @ 500mg/week (split into 2 shots/week)
weeks 1-10 Deca @ 500mg/week (split into 2 shots/week)
weeks 1-12 Adex .5mg EOD
weeks 1-5 T-bol 50mg ED
weeks 1-8 T3 @ 25mcg ED
weeks 15-18 PCT consisting of nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50
I am also considering adding in some HCG but am unsure if I should use it throughout the cycle (250IU 2-3 times per week) or wait until week 12 (@ 500IU EOD,leading into my PCT)? What do you guys think, anything need tweeking?

***RAGE*** · 09-09-2009, 10:01 AM

I thank the cycle looks great,
I am not a fan of front loading I think the t-bol will do the trick on that and would save the test-c from the first week but that is just me and know that front loading works for others..

Bro, I have seen you around and would like to see a log in the members cycle so we/I can follow your progress...

Great work bro

ps.
I have put on a lot of mass with the deca and a lot of water weight that is just one thing to watch out for with the deca and may be keep an AI just in case..

**Scarface69** · 09-09-2009, 10:06 AM

I'd add .5 A-dex EOD just to keep the estrogen down.

and honestly since you have 4 cycles under your belt I'd up the test c to 750mg/week and Deca to 600mg/week.

**marcus300** · 09-09-2009, 10:07 AM

Looks fine, maybe swap the tbol with drol!! best of luck

**sportfan33** · 09-09-2009, 10:17 AM

nice cycle, your gona be a beast by the end of winter bro.

**M302_Imola** · 09-09-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by prone2rage

I thank the cycle looks great,
I am not a fan of front loading I think the t-bol will do the trick on that and would save the test-c from the first week but that is just me and know that front loading works for others..

Bro, I have seen you around and would like to see a log in the members cycle so we/I can follow your progress...

Great work bro

ps.
I have put on a lot of mass with the deca and a lot of water weight that is just one thing to watch out for with the deca and may be keep an AI just in case..

Thanks for the reply. I forgot to add that I am going to run Adex at .5mg EOD throughout the cycle to help keep the water off and aid in gyno prevention. I will start up a log when I start, although it will be a few months.

**M302_Imola** · 09-09-2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Looks fine, maybe swap the tbol with drol!! best of luck

I thought about drol but thought t-bol would help me keep of the water a little better than drol. I have never ran either although I did put on a lot of water weight w/ 40mg d-bol. I would like to hear you rational on using drol over t-bol though.

**marcus300** · 09-09-2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

I thought about drol but thought t-bol would help me keep of the water a little better than drol. I have never ran either although I did put on a lot of water weight w/ 40mg d-bol. I would like to hear you rational on using drol over t-bol though.

Personally, drol swipes the floor with tbol, I also get stomach problems with tbol so for me it isnt a good compound to use especially in a bulk, drol makes me super strong and creates size like no other oral,but if you havent used any try one and see how you go.

**M302_Imola** · 09-09-2009, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Personally, drol swipes the floor with tbol, I also get stomach problems with tbol so for me it isnt a good compound to use especially in a bulk, drol makes me super strong and creates size like no other oral,but if you havent used any try one and see how you go.

Thanks for the helpful insight...now I am not sure which one I want to run. I know t-bol is mild and won't produce the strength and size gains that drol will but I am worried water weight as I want to stay as lean as possible while bulking. Will the drol add sloppy water weight (diet will be in check) even w/ an AI? What would be a good dosage for a 1st time user of drol and duration?

**oneshot** · 09-09-2009, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Thanks for the helpful insight...now I am not sure which one I want to run. I know t-bol is mild and won't produce the strength and size gains that drol will but I am worried water weight as I want to stay as lean as possible while bulking. Will the drol add sloppy water weight (diet will be in check) even w/ an AI? What would be a good dosage for a 1st time user of drol and duration?

im currently on 90 mg prop ed and 140 mg drol ed and am not holding any extra water at all, nor am i using an ai. keep that diet clean, cut back on the sodium, and drink a shitton of water. been workin well for me, but i guess its different for everyone. 100 mg ed is is a really common dose for drol and with a few cycles under your belt, you should manage just fine

BG · 09-09-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Thanks for the helpful insight...now I am not sure which one I want to run. I know t-bol is mild and won't produce the strength and size gains that drol will but I am worried water weight as I want to stay as lean as possible while bulking. Will the drol add sloppy water weight (diet will be in check) even w/ an AI? What would be a good dosage for a 1st time user of drol and duration?

As long as your diets good and bf is low drol makes you look insane. I used with low BF and I never looked better, no water, well maybe in my muscles but that where you want it. I would run the hcg during cycle.

**oneshot** · 09-09-2009, 02:25 PM

^^^ hence why i have an ear to ear grin on my face 24/7 now haha

**marcus300** · 09-09-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by BG

As long as your diets good and bf is low drol makes you look insane. I used with low BF and I never looked better, no water, well maybe in my muscles but that where you want it. I would run the hcg during cycle.

Agree^^ if the diet is in order and the bf is low you wont have any problems especially with an AI within the cylce

**M302_Imola** · 09-10-2009, 05:09 AM

Thanks for the replies guys you have been a big help! You have now peaked my interest in kickstarting w/ drol...so 100mg ED for 4 weeks would be a sufficient kickstart? I am going to keep the diet clean as I don't believe in "dirty" bulks. Also, can anyone else comment on using HCG throughout my cycle or only towards the end and at what dosage?

BG, if I run the HCG throughout my cycle what dosage do you recommend and how frequent should I pin?

**audis4** · 09-10-2009, 11:34 AM

I'd run HCG throughout your cycle @ 250IU 2x/wk; I wouldn't run during PCT

**M302_Imola** · 09-11-2009, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by audis4

I'd run HCG throughout your cycle @ 250IU 2x/wk; I wouldn't run during PCT

Thanks, yeah I know HCG is a no-no.

**M302_Imola** · 09-11-2009, 05:57 AM

Ok, you guys have talked me out of kickstarting w/ t-bol. How does this drol kickstart sound?:
week 1 - 75mg drol ED
week 2 - 75mg drol ED
week 3 - 100mg drol ED
week 4 - 100mg drol ED

Or should I just come out of the box and run 100mg ED? I figured 75mg would help me hold of the water and probably be less likely to give me sides initially.

Also, should I have bromo on hand incase of prolactin or will the Adex suppress my estrogen levels enough to were I won't get prolactin buil-up?

**M302_Imola** · 09-12-2009, 07:31 AM

bumpage!

**oneshot** · 09-12-2009, 11:08 AM

you probably wont have to worry about any prolactin sides with those kind of doses, but it sure wouldnt hurt to have it on hand. better safe than sorry ya know. personally id jump in with both feet and start at 100 mg ed. im thinking the anadrol bloat is kinda over-hyped if you have low bodyfat and can keep the diet real clean. and if your already running adex, that will probably keep ya lookin a bit dryer as well.

**M302_Imola** · 09-13-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by oneshot;485***8

you probably wont have to worry about any prolactin sides with those kind of doses, but it sure wouldnt hurt to have it on hand. better safe than sorry ya know. personally id jump in with both feet and start at 100 mg ed. im thinking the anadrol bloat is kinda over-hyped if you have low bodyfat and can keep the diet real clean. and if your already running adex, that will probably keep ya lookin a bit dryer as well.

sounds good bro...I will be following your cycle log. Good luck and let's get huge!