New Member Needing Advise

**-R1-** · 12-30-2002, 04:22 PM

HELLO GENTLEMEN..i am a new member needing some help..i hope you don't mind ..im looking to do a mild cycle ..primo and winny..i also have clomid and clen ..do i need anythig else? i also need to know how long of a cycle ,and when and how each should be taken...

THANKS AND HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR

-R1-

**MBaraso** · 12-30-2002, 04:34 PM

What's your stats?
A basic cycle would be:
Week 1-10 Primo 400mgs
Week 7-12 winny 50mgs e/d
clomid 2 days out
run the clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.
Do some more research before you start though...

**Madmax** · 12-30-2002, 05:01 PM

personally i'd throw some test in there. you might as well take advantage of the fact thats it's your first cycle..and do some growing on this one..Madmax..

primo 400mg 1-10
test 500mg 1-10
winny 50mg ed 8-13
d-bol 25mg ed 1-4..it's optional if you don't want to run it..

**MDMA** · 12-30-2002, 05:25 PM

Dont do 500mg of test your first cycle. 250mg a week is plenty.

**dansteelman** · 12-30-2002, 06:17 PM

MDMA, 500 will do better. I hate to disagree, but I do. If 250 isnt enough, it won't do any good too up it halfway in to his cycle

**MDMA** · 12-31-2002, 12:41 AM

I believe in low dosage cycles in the beginning. Makes for more slow, quality, lean gains instead of 25 pounds in 10 weeks. Not as solid as say 12 pounds in 10 weeks. Just my opinion on newb cycles..

**-R1-** · 12-31-2002, 02:32 PM

thanks guy's ..also ,will i need h.c.g ? or is the clomid good enough?

**RON** · 12-31-2002, 02:41 PM

Just clomid is fine.

As far as test doses it all depends on you. I ran test at 400 my very first ever cycle and really feel I got nothing from the test. Some people get good results from 250mg. Some do not. BTW it wasn't diet and training cause my diet and training were spot on at the time.

**-R1-** · 12-31-2002, 05:17 PM

to answer you question on my stats...im 5-10 180lbs certified N.A.S.M

**wrstlr69sdnl** · 01-02-2003, 07:44 PM

im saying the 500mg test is fine 250mg a week with the winney and prop but instead of winny i would put fina at 75mg a day for 4 or 5 weeks the best sh*t i have ever tryed i love fina i am on a fina only cycle right now best i have ever tryed

**brs** · 01-03-2003, 12:08 AM

I did 250 mg of test my first cycle and gain 20 pounds...I think the dose depends on the person. just my .02.

**-R1-** · 01-03-2003, 12:17 PM

i have another question..will this cycle with test really mess with my sex drive while on it ? and when coming off ,and i do everything im suposed to do to bring my levels back ,will it be normal ,below normal or above normal ?