How can HCG be counterproductive during PCT?

**tigeredge** · 09-22-2009, 03:39 PM

ive heard a few people say this. any ideas on how it can be counter productive?

**Hazard** · 09-22-2009, 04:18 PM

Durring PCT you are trying to restore all your levels..... including FSH and LH. If you are using HCG durring your PCT you could indirectly lower testosterone by lowering natty LH production.

Also.... using more than 500iu's of HCG in one shot MAY start the desensitise the testes. Just FYI.....

~Haz~

**Hazard** · 09-22-2009, 04:20 PM

HCG is used while off cycle tho for infertile men as a last resort to stimulate the testes..... but it's better used for aas users while on cycle.....

~Haz~

**Swifto** · 09-22-2009, 04:26 PM

Hazord is bang on the money.

It will suppress endogenous LH levels and thats what one wants to restore during PCT.

HCG /HMG are used as a last resort to combat testicular dysfunction, which will have set in after the testes have not had any stimulation from endogenous ganadotrophins.

**mario_ps2** · 09-22-2009, 10:30 PM

I thought they had said to use it on the first 2 weeks of pct followed by 3/4 weeks of nolva/clomid?

**bobofet** · 09-23-2009, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by mario_ps2

I thought they had said to use it on the first 2 weeks of pct followed by 3/4 weeks of nolva/clomid?

Yeah I read that also, would like to know cause I am gonna have to start PCT really soon and plan on using the hcg

**thai-lan** · 09-23-2009, 03:10 AM

dont think anybody has said such a thing on AR , everybody knows that you arent meant to use it during pct , you can start using it starting from last few weeks of your CYCLE up until PCT. you dont run HCG during PCT .NEVER

**Swifto** · 09-23-2009, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by thai-lan

dont think anybody has said such a thing on AR , everybody knows that you arent meant to use it during pct , you can start using it starting from last few weeks of your CYCLE up until PCT. you dont run HCG during PCT .NEVER

The only time HCG should be used apart from "on cycle", is when testicular dysfunction has set in (the testes are almost unresponsive). HCG can be used to "kickstart" them, then we need to use SERMs to get endogenous LH/FSH levels up.