deca/tren

[dec11]

buying in my gear at the mo and was going for deca along wit sust and dbol but reading up on others libido probs im starting to change my mind, afta bein told eq is crap more or less, the only otha add in i can get is tren , the quest is will it shut you down hard like deca? cheers

[oneshot]

yes, tren will shut you down similar to deca being as their both 19nor compounds

[dec11]

yes, tren will shut you down similar to deca being as their both 19nor compounds

what other compound is worth throwing in? may be able to get primobolan

[Knockout_Power]

Dbol and sust will give great gains. Primo will require a lot to be beneficial, some say as high as 700-800/wk is needed

[dec11]

im thinkin tren now sayin as its not ran as long as deca , or does it ness work that way?

[Knockout_Power]

8 weeks on Tren will yeild great results. Some say run to 10, but I thought 8 for mine was sufficient.

I have not heard to many people running Dbol and Tren together though, not sure if its a bad idea or just not done often.

[dec11]

well dbol will be for 4 wks kick and then throw in tren ? so......
sust 1-15
dbol 1-4
tren 5-11
15-18 1500iu hcg e5d
20-24 clomid and nolva

[Knockout_Power]

Do you need to run it so long? Sust should show gains a little quicker than E or C, so 12 weeks should be fine, but I would run to 13 so you get 2 weeks more test when the Tren is done.

Let one of the vets answer this to be sure. I dont know about those start times for dbol and tren. Speaking of which, are we talking Tren A or E?

[dec11]

Do you need to run it so long? Sust should show gains a little quicker than E or C, so 12 weeks should be fine, but I would run to 13 so you get 2 weeks more test when the Tren is done.

Let one of the vets answer this to be sure. I dont know about those start times for dbol and tren. Speaking of which, are we talking Tren A or E?

sorry tren a, mate. doses are 600mg sust 40mg dbol and prob 100mg tren evry other day if i opt for it

[Knockout_Power]

Well, this is how I would run it, shouldnt be a problem with Dbol but I would lower the dose to 25-30/day

wk 1-12 Sust
wk 1-10 Tren A
Wk 1-4 Dbol

PCT starting 15 days after last injection

[dec11]

yea, looks good to me, would 8wks tren do the job? dubious of stayin too long on a 19nor with the libido probs im hearing of, cheers

[dec11]

bump, vets any input

[leafman]

with the compounds you have i would do this

weeks 1-4 40/50mgs dbol every day

weeks 1-12 250mgs sust every 3rd day

weeks 8-15 150mgs tren a every other day

weeks 8-12 500iu hcg every 4th day

i would also add test prop at 200mgs every other day from weeks 12-15 right up to pct along with the tren a.

[*RAGE*]

Well, this is how I would run it, shouldnt be a problem with Dbol but I would lower the dose to 25-30/day

wk 1-12 Sust
wk 1-10 Tren A
Wk 1-4 Dbol

PCT starting 15 days after last injection

I like this lay out on the cycle, but lets take it a little deeper such as

wk 1-12 sust 75mg ed
wk 1-10 tren a 150 eod or 75mg ed
wk 1-4 dbol 40 to 50mg ed

now IMO tren is better ran ed other then oed due to the sides. I think you would do great with this kinda of cycle..

PCT I would lay it out like this
wk 1-2 clomid 100mg ed
wk 3-4 clomid 50mg ed and take the clomid at night to help with side and happy dreams

wk 1-2 nolva 40mg ed
wk 3-4 nolva 20mg ed take this one in the morning or after noon always had trouble sleeping on nolva not sure why..

good luck

peace
prone

[Knockout_Power]

There you have it Declan, Prone summed it up very well. You will see amazing gains from this cycle.

Best of luck bro

KP

[RANA]

I like this lay out on the cycle, but lets take it a little deeper such as

wk 1-12 sust 75mg ed
wk 1-10 tren a 150 eod or 75mg ed
wk 1-4 dbol 40 to 50mg ed

now IMO tren is better ran ed other then oed due to the sides. I think you would do great with this kinda of cycle..

PCT I would lay it out like this
wk 1-2 clomid 100mg ed
wk 3-4 clomid 50mg ed and take the clomid at night to help with side and happy dreams

wk 1-2 nolva 40mg ed
wk 3-4 nolva 20mg ed take this one in the morning or after noon always had trouble sleeping on nolva not sure why..

good luck

peace
prone

I totally agree!! Go with ED on Tren and get some caber or bromo to help you out.

[dec11]

great help guys, thanks a million

[dec11]

one more question, will the sust not be enuf to supress any libido probs without caber or bromo, hard to get here, also would proviron help 4 this. cheers

[MR10X]

buying in my gear at the mo and was going for deca along wit sust and dbol but reading up on others libido probs im starting to change my mind, afta bein told eq is crap more or less, the only otha add in i can get is tren, the quest is will it shut you down hard like deca? cheers

I would just use 75mg Tren A ED and 500mg Sustanon weekly.75mg of tren is extremely potent and i wouldnt add any orals or other compounds.I am doing a Tren A and test cycle now its the strongest cycle i have ever done.Adding anything will just make your side effects worse.You wont have any sex issues with the cycle i suggest,its what i am on now and there are no problems and the side effects are minimal. You may want something for estrogen and prolactin sides if they show up.

[dec11]

I would just use 75mg Tren A ED and 500mg Sustanon weekly.75mg of tren is extremely potent and i wouldnt add any orals or other compounds.I am doing a Tren A and test cycle now its the strongest cycle i have ever done.Adding anything will just make your side effects worse.You wont have any sex issues with the cycle i suggest,its what i am on now and there are no problems and the side effects are minimal. You may want something for estrogen and prolactin sides if they show up.

thanx, is nolva suitable?

[MR10X]

I am taking 20mg a day of nolvadex and .5mg of prami.The nolvadex will tie up the estrogen receptors but still allow you to have some estrogen in your system which you need,this is for the test use.The prami will keep the prolactin down from the tren ,you can use other compounds like caber if you like. Dont under estimate the strenght of the tren,it is a really strong compound and the sides will be different for different people,so far i havnt had any sides that i cant cope with.

[dec11]

nolva and proviron are about all i can get, will these be enuf to aid libido with tren ? bear in mind i used deca before and it didnt shut me down at all during or afta cycle with a stupid dose of 900mg per wk, but then it may have been weak, but was frm a reputable lab. cheers

[dec11]

bump

[Knockout_Power]

Libido will not be an issue on 500 sust, no worries bro.

[dec11]

Libido will not be an issue on 500 sust, no worries bro.

cheers pal, time to get the tren ordered!