Ok think I might be getting gyno

**xnotoriousx** · 10-02-2009, 11:35 PM

I have nolva, how should I take this to reverse it? Right nipple has a weird pain when I push on it and nipz are looking extra puffy today.

How should I take the nolva, going to start tonight.

**swol_je** · 10-02-2009, 11:38 PM

.5 a day, but letro is your best bet.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-02-2009, 11:38 PM

i'm going on week 3 of my cycle 500mg test e a week w/ 40mg dbol ed

**xnotoriousx** · 10-02-2009, 11:45 PM

Take nolva at .5 a day? How long? Will this change pct plans or dosage?

**swol_je** · 10-02-2009, 11:45 PM

I would get letro then for sure ASAP.

**swol_je** · 10-02-2009, 11:54 PM

Sorry that's for adex. Tamox - 40mgs ED (for the first 5 days.)
From there you can drop the dose to 20mgs ED, and if symptoms subside, continue use of 10mgs throughout the remainder of your cycle and into PCT.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-02-2009, 11:57 PM

So even if the symptoms go away, I should still use the nolva for 9 more weeks?

I think it's just the dbol that's causing the gyno symptoms.

**Nicotine** · 10-02-2009, 11:59 PM

im using tamox now..

i had to, my lump came back (was gone, using tamox and warmachine's pct)

it's going away again, currently at 20mg/day of tamox.

ordered some arimidex ..looks like i'll have to use that every cycle..seems im prone

my suggestion, tamoxifen (aka, nolvadex )

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 12:01 AM

Now i'm starting to question myself, how do you REALLY know it could be gyno. Right now my right nipple is sore almost like its a sore vein or something and both seem a little bit puffy. Is this enough to assume and take action?

**swol_je** · 10-03-2009, 12:04 AM

When is subsides you should be fine till PCT. Or you could stop the dbol soon if you think thats whats causing it.

**swol_je** · 10-03-2009, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by xnotoriousx

Now i'm starting to question myself, how do you REALLY know it could be gyno. Right now my right nipple is sore almost like its a sore vein or something and both seem a little bit puffy. Is this enough to assume and take action?

Maybe. I got a couple buddies who think the same, but when I go to look at them, there aint nuthing there, just all in their head.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Nicotine

im using tamox now..

i had to, my lump came back (was gone, using tamox and warmachine's pct)

it's going away again, currently at 20mg/day of tamox.

ordered some arimidex ..looks like i'll have to use that every cycle..seems im prone

my suggestion, tamoxifen (aka, nolvadex)

So I should take 40mg of Tamox for a couple days then take 20mg until it goes away and then just come off the tamox and do a pct after the cycle is done?

**Nicotine** · 10-03-2009, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by xnotoriousx

Now i'm starting to question myself, how do you REALLY know it could be gyno. Right now my right nipple is sore almost like its a sore vein or something and both seem a little bit puffy. Is this enough to assume and take action?

take one or 2 fingers, and push in. circle around.

feel any little hard lumps?

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 12:07 AM

Maybe I should hold on another day or so before taking anything or stopping the dbol

**Nicotine** · 10-03-2009, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by xnotoriousx

So I should take 40mg of Tamox for a couple days then take 20mg until it goes away and then just come off the tamox and do a pct after the cycle is done?

run it now, and continue into pct i believe (anyone can correct me if im wrong)

last time i did 40mg/day for a week, then 20mg/day for like 2 weeks. it started to subside, so i dropped it to 10mg/day

did the trick for me.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Nicotine

take one or 2 fingers, and push in. circle around.

feel any little hard lumps?

Seems like there is in both pecs, I can't tell if its a lump or just the way the pec is though.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 12:12 AM

Since I think it's the dbol causing it and not the test since it hasn't even kicked in yet could I use the tamox until I think the puffyness goes away and then stop until time for PCT? Or do I have to continue to run it even after symptoms go away?

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 12:14 AM

Damn well I guess i'm going to go ahead and take 40mgs then, rather be safe then sorry right?

**PC650** · 10-03-2009, 12:50 AM

gyno at 500mg of test?? whats your bf% bro just curious. first time with gyno?

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 09:42 AM

yeah 500mg/week and dbol @40mg ed

Bodyfat is between 12 and 13%

Yeah first time with gyno, not even sure if i'm getting it. When I flex my pec and feel around under my right nipple it almost feels like a sore vein or a small bruise is there.. Nipples are a tad bit puffy.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 09:48 AM

Here's a pic what do you think? Maybe it's just water... Damn this shit is messing with my head.

What really is freaking me out is I ONLY have nolva because someone on this board (respected member) offered me a bottle of adex for $65 and now is all of a sudden banned and won't reply to my email so i'm assuming I was ripped off for my 65 so now only have the nolva if something happens..

Note to self, never trust anyone ever ever ever again.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 10:14 AM

bump

**rockinred** · 10-03-2009, 10:28 AM

X,

I would recommend saving your nolva for PCT and running .25 L-dex thru your cycle. Letro is a lot stronger and going too low on your estro and that can give you probs too, immune system and others. I lose strength on cycle when running l=dex, but I have to on the long esters because I am gyno prone. I don't run anything on the short esters.

Your pic doesn't look bad at all, but if it is tender and puffy, it is more than likely coming in.

**xnotoriousx** · 10-03-2009, 10:51 AM

guess I should just order some adex then, you think should start it asap or maybe wait for symptoms to get a little worse before jumping the gun??

**PC650** · 10-03-2009, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by rockinred

X,

I would recommend saving your nolva for PCT and running .25 L-dex thru your cycle. Letro is a lot stronger and going too low on your estro and that can give you probs too, immune system and others. I lose strength on cycle when running l=dex, but I have to on the long esters because I am gyno prone. I don't run anything on the short esters.

Your pic doesn't look bad at all, but if it is tender and puffy, it is more than likely coming in.

^^^^^^2x

**rockinred** · 10-03-2009, 11:10 AM

Hard to say bro... you are going to have to make the judgement call yourself. I would order for sure and then wait and see to an extent. YOu don't want to let it get out of control. but to tell you the truth, when I got it, there was no wondering... I knew I was getting it. You could probably ride it out a little bit longer and see how it goes. If you lie down on your stomach and feel tender, then you know it is for real. Also, I always wait till the last minute because I like the strength I get without the adex. I never had any major issues getting rid of it once I start. that's just me though. Good luck.