Liqua tech and QV cyp cycle

**ajunior** · 10-03-2009, 04:30 PM

I'm looking for some help with this cycle:
the tte has :
125 mgs tren E
150 mgs test E
150 mgs test Cyp

and the cyp is 200 mgs

im taking one cc of each every 4 days.

My stats are:

6'4 275 lbs
25 % body fat, not exactly sure i have a massive frame. and I carry the weight very well

I want to go , the middle of the road with this cycle; maybe 5000 calories.
I would like to cut a bit while on this. than really cut with some GH after. while bridging to next cycle.
Was wondering If the calories are to high. I realize that my body fat is high but I'm able to lose weight really fast and i want to gain muscle while doing it.

**ajunior** · 10-03-2009, 04:33 PM

Also i guess it should be noted that i work in construction and my job is very demanding. when i was taking in 100 grams of carbs i was in a state of ketosis

**Big** · 10-03-2009, 04:34 PM

You should considerably drop that bf before any cycle.

**peachfuzz** · 10-03-2009, 06:21 PM

pretty sure you need to edit out those lab names as well

what cycle number is this?

**ajunior** · 10-03-2009, 06:27 PM

not allowed?
oops

**ajunior** · 10-03-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Big

You should considerably drop that bf before any cycle.

how much do yo figure?
wont the tren help lean me out?

**Big** · 10-03-2009, 06:40 PM

I figure because the higher your body fat the more you will be prone to high blood pressure, estrogen related sides, gyno, etc. you should be at the most 15%, ideally 12% or less before cycling. If you can't get to that naturally there is something wrong with your diet, training, or both.

**ajunior** · 10-03-2009, 06:46 PM

Unfortunately , Ive been very unmotivated and tired from work and stress. I can lose the weight very fast. 2 months back i went on a diet and lost 20 lbs in three weeks. I could see the change in my body . i wanted to get motivated so I grabbed some gear. In the past i did a deca cycle shot up to 305 lbs and blood pressure was good, and no gyno. (this all took place within 6 weeks of the cycle )

do you think if i were to run some winny with it. i could minimize some of those concerns?

**peachfuzz** · 10-03-2009, 06:50 PM

No way around it. the answer is not another steroid . you need to do this on your own.

**Big** · 10-03-2009, 06:53 PM

I wouldn't advise winny for anyone over 10%bf, and I never advise gear to make up for shortcomings in dedication.

**ajunior** · 10-03-2009, 06:57 PM

fair enough, thanks for your advice

**peachfuzz** · 10-03-2009, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by ajunior

fair enough, thanks for your advice

I really hope you take to heart what we are saying...It is in your best interest, not ours. If your serious about doing it right then head over to the diet section and post up if you have questions...